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WhiteTara

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36. It costs money and we don't spend money

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:05 AM

Jun 2014

on stinking projects that will help citizenry. We must give all our money to corps that will stash it in offshore accounts so they can count their dollars.

He who dies with the most toys still dies.

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China is BUILDING big things in Africa [View all] CJCRANE Jun 2014 OP

It's a pretty awful looking city Armstead Jun 2014 #1

It depends what the locals are used to. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #2

Compared to what, mud huts? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #41

Compared to something that isn't monolithic blocks of identical ugly buldings Armstead Jun 2014 #44

Architectural criticism is legitimate, but it is the desert, and there is limited money. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #46

Its a larger qulity of life issue -- same as everywhere Armstead Jun 2014 #48

Because we have no money. onehandle Jun 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Jun 2014 #4

It's a little more than that now: CJCRANE Jun 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Jun 2014 #6

Looks like co-op city. Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #7

I think the word you're looking for is "colonizing." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #8

That only applies if Chinese people are moving there en masse. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #9

Not nessicarily- colonization doesn't require mass movement Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #10

Lots of people like to be paid for oil in cash, which they then use as they wish to use it Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #15

It's bartering. It's a transaction. It's not colonialism. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #16

Is that what you'd call it if Haliburton had made that deal? Bartering? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #20

If it's a transaction with no coercion, then yes. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #32

no they are building infrastructure so they can export, and create an exploited work force. bettyellen Jun 2014 #49

As a opposed to American diplomacy which is to invade or overthrow and install a puppet regime? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #42

because of the resources like oil and minerals IronLionZion Jun 2014 #11

So you support colonialism? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #12

No, I don't. I support builiding infrastructure. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #14

That infrastructure as payment in kind for oil. Not the same as the Marshall plan at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #17

What have we built in Africa? CJCRANE Jun 2014 #19

You can't change the subject until the subject you raised has been discussed. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #22

I never claimed it was charity. Even the Marshall Plan also had loans. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #24

Africa trading it's resources for infrastructure seems to offend the imperialistic spirit. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #43

Doesn't appear that China is ultimately paying for it Bonx Jun 2014 #13

They are paying for it in labor and expertise. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #18

Doesn't make any sense to me Bonx Jun 2014 #21

I don't think I would want to live in a China-built high rise. Coventina Jun 2014 #23

It depends what conditions the people live in now. CJCRANE Jun 2014 #25

I wouldn't want to maintain them Bonx Jun 2014 #28

I'll bet it's already happening. Coventina Jun 2014 #30

It's interesting to see there are no replies saying "yes we can build big things". CJCRANE Jun 2014 #26

we build big shit all the time, China can buy some more of our articulated trucks LOL snooper2 Jun 2014 #31

That's pretty big! CJCRANE Jun 2014 #34

Yes we can build big things Bonx Jun 2014 #27

The billion-dollar Embassy in Baghdad comes to mind.... Coventina Jun 2014 #29

We could - but Erik Prince isn't on our side anymore JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #33

We DO build big things: TBF Jun 2014 #35

It costs money and we don't spend money WhiteTara Jun 2014 #36

Political will. Igel Jun 2014 #37

Does anyone live there, or is China just exporting its ghost cities? JHB Jun 2014 #38

america is too busy spending money blowing shit up to build anything KG Jun 2014 #39

Is anyone living in/using them? redqueen Jun 2014 #40

I'm betting they are mostly empty JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #45

China is going where the cheap labor is Hugabear Jun 2014 #47