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badtoworse

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35. You've lost me here

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:55 PM

Jun 2014

Negligence with any of these objects can cause the death of a child. The intended purpose of the object is irrelevant.

If I had to choose among the three, I would say it was the parent that locks the child in the car. In that situation, the child will have been extremely uncomfortable even if it survives and the parent would almost certainly have known the child was there. In the other cases, it's possible nothing happens.

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Report: Accidental shootings kill 2 kids every week [View all] doxydad Jun 2014 OP

How many died in pools or by some other accident? badtoworse Jun 2014 #1

Honestly, this argument is such a load of crap. Happyhippychick Jun 2014 #5

So then those examples you cited pipoman Jun 2014 #11

I have no idea what you are trying to say Happyhippychick Jun 2014 #15

I confused the op with another post in this thread... pipoman Jun 2014 #16

Is this a gun control problem or a parental negligence problem? badtoworse Jun 2014 #18

"Speaking of getting tiresome, I'm getting tired of the gun control crowd exploiting children by Happyhippychick Jun 2014 #21

Your non-response to my questions says a lot. badtoworse Jun 2014 #22

The parent who leaves the loaded gun where the child can get it, that's who. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #24

You've lost me here badtoworse Jun 2014 #35

Pools have the purpose of swimming. Drowning is an unintended consequence. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #36

That is ridiculous on its face. Accidental gun deaths do happen badtoworse Jun 2014 #37

And by definition, leaving a loaded weapon where a child has access is no accident. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #39

See Post 40. badtoworse Jun 2014 #42

That reminds me of my neighbor Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #53

At Least The Parent Who Leaves Kid In Car otohara Jun 2014 #27

Get used to it! upaloopa Jun 2014 #34

Words have meanings badtoworse Jun 2014 #40

What they are really saying with their "shit happens" canards is... lapislzi Jun 2014 #20

Right on cue. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2014 #13

See Post 18 badtoworse Jun 2014 #19

Right. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2014 #23

And post number 1 too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #48

If the deaths occur because of improperly avebury Jun 2014 #2

Really, aren't most "accidents" avoidable and often the result of pipoman Jun 2014 #4

When "accidents" become so routine and predictable action should morningfog Jun 2014 #7

Like car "accidents" and swimming pool "accidents"? pipoman Jun 2014 #8

People are routinely charged with vehicular homicide and negligence. morningfog Jun 2014 #9

So then you believe someone who pipoman Jun 2014 #10

"Get done paying?" morningfog Jun 2014 #14

And the post starting this subthread pipoman Jun 2014 #17

Cars=transportation me b zola Jun 2014 #50

Both cars and pools can be operated negligently pipoman Jun 2014 #54

That hobby does not usually kills other people hack89 Jun 2014 #58

Leaving a loaded gun laying around is a avebury Jun 2014 #45

So is leaving a gate to a pool open, texting and driving, pipoman Jun 2014 #55

Many states have passed avebury Jun 2014 #57

Those things would be met with the homicide charges they deserve if someone died. alphafemale Jun 2014 #59

No, they rarely charge grieving parents most places unless it is pipoman Jun 2014 #60

Negligent assholes that leave guns laying around are rarely charged EVER alphafemale Jun 2014 #61

I think I choose the CDC'S statistics over that of a lobbying group pipoman Jun 2014 #3

Well, yeah, but fuck the NRA, terrorist organization. morningfog Jun 2014 #6

Agreed, and fuck Michael Bloomberg pipoman Jun 2014 #12

The CDC, whose ability to research public health impacts of guns is hampered by GOPers? Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #25

There is no prohibition from compiling data pipoman Jun 2014 #32

FFS, it's not "speculative analysis," it's statistical research using accepted practices. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #38

There are plenty of government programs not adequately funded pipoman Jun 2014 #41

I worked as a contractor on CDC sponsored research so sell your misinformation some place else. n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #47

The CDC is not allowed to collect statistics because of gun nuts. alarimer Jun 2014 #26

Nonsense. ..they certainly are/do compile data... pipoman Jun 2014 #31

"The CDC is not allowed to collect statistics because of gun nuts." NCTraveler Jun 2014 #33

Here alarimer Jun 2014 #72

Doesn't back up the claim being made. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #73

The study is bullshit propaganda from "Stop and Frisk" Loser RW asshole Bloomberg. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #28

They love CDC studies. Till they go the other way. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #44

One child, ever, killed... 3catwoman3 Jun 2014 #29

Children don't buy guns. Turbineguy Jun 2014 #30

Hasn't this gun accident rate been dropping? Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #43

How about mandatory life sentence if your gun is used to shoot a kid krawhitham Jun 2014 #46

Wow, how GOP of you! Extreme sentences! nt Logical Jun 2014 #49

You are right the current system is working great krawhitham Jun 2014 #51

Why not the same for letting a kid drown? Or if you kid dies in a wreck you caused? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #52

If you drive like an asshole with your kid in the car laundry_queen Jun 2014 #56

Bullshit....... Logical Jun 2014 #62

LOL. When people claim to be something laundry_queen Jun 2014 #63

You are wrong. Just want to punish gun owners worse. At least admit it. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #64

So you have nothing to counteract my argument. Ok. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #65

Yes I did. Parents leave pool access open, kid drowns. Life in prison? Yes/No? n-t Logical Jun 2014 #66

Ah. You're one of those black and white thinkers. No surprise. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #67

LOL, OK, you basically refuse to answer. We are done. But thanks for playing! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #68

Your game, not mine. I explained myself clearly in my original post. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #69

LOL, your definition of "clearly". n-t Logical Jun 2014 #70

LOL, your definition of "logical" laundry_queen Jun 2014 #71