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Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 06:50 PM Jun 2014

DU Jury Nullification [View all]

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This is not whining about DU, but merely an observation. It seems that many posts which shouldn't be hidden are, and those that should be, aren't. There is now a thread in DU about a poster proclaiming to enter into the jury service predisposed to let the post stand, regardless of the content.

I wonder, is the rash of questionable jury decisions a symptom of backlash against the system itself? Is it a result of malfeasance from nefarious posters serving on juries and intentionally disrupting the system?

Now that hidden posts have a meaningful consequence, suspension from DU for up to 90 days while the hides drop off, it seems that the system is an invitation for trolls to, well, troll. There are some opinionated and extremely prolific posters here. Many of them are sitting at 4 hides right now, for posts that should never have been hidden.

I suspect that there are posters alert-stalking these opinionated and prolific members of DU, so that every single mildly controversial post is alerted on. Some of these posters are posting hundreds, if not thousands, of posts over the course of 90 days. Statistically, it's going to be pretty easy for an alert-stalking disruptor to gag someone using frivolous alerts.

Again, I'm not whining about DU or the jury system -- I'm making observations about the system's current design.

I'll be productive and offer a solution: I say why not limit alerting privileges to one alert per poster per day, with a failed (0-7 to leave it) alert causing one's alerting privileges to be revoked for a week. I think that would cut down on the frivolous alerts and alert stalking.

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DU Jury Nullification [View all] Michigander_Life Jun 2014 OP
I think that is a good suggestion and should be reposted in ATA. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #1
That is a good idea! djean111 Jun 2014 #2
That is a good idea. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #3
Wait. Weren't you the nipple alerter?... SidDithers Jun 2014 #4
yep Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #5
See below Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #8
You and I both know that post was hidden for a good reason Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #6
you sound a bit stalkerish with regards to that poster...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #14
Those hides were all discussed in my Nipple Alerter thread Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #18
I know the word you're looking for…. MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #25
+1 HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #7
See above Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #10
... Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #9
See #6 Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #11
Or perhaps treat alerts like hides. Mugu Jun 2014 #12
or identify each alerter... grasswire Jun 2014 #13
That's not a half bad idea with one possible caveat Brother Buzz Jun 2014 #22
that's fair grasswire Jun 2014 #31
The jury blacklist is your friend. If there is someone that you butt heads with, blacklist them NightWatcher Jun 2014 #15
While I agree, it's not a "backlash" ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #16
Core of the problem RobertEarl Jun 2014 #17
the jury system is only part of the problem, and I really think a small part.... mike_c Jun 2014 #19
Skinner has stated several times that "alert stalking" does not exist. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #20
I would like to see those data.... mike_c Jun 2014 #21
You've been on 486 juries? RobertEarl Jun 2014 #23
you'd still penalize a failed alert as if it was actually frivolous bigtree Jun 2014 #24
A 0-7 alert is far more likely to be frivolous Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #28
This coming from the nipple alerter? LOL, classic! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #26
Thank you. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #29
Or, if we're going to have juries, KamaAina Jun 2014 #27
Order in the court! lovemydog Jun 2014 #33
I think you have the start of a good idea or at least pointed out a problem......... wandy Jun 2014 #30
I agree: DU needs to make it NOT so easy to click the ALERT button. C Moon Jun 2014 #32
I think you have nailed a problem and it does call for a solution.n/t Cleita Jun 2014 #34
+1 on a restrictor-plate for limiting alert abuse paulkienitz Jun 2014 #35
I don't doubt that some stalking may happen... NaturalHigh Jun 2014 #36
I suggest you post this on ATA. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #37
The jury system is flawed at best. ananda Jun 2014 #38
jury members should also get mileage and a stipend tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #39
Locking. Agschmid Jun 2014 #40
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