NSA says it has no record of Snowden challenging spying

[MADem]

144. You keep doing it! And you wonder why people look askance at what you have to say!

No one said they were coming here with the purpose to disrupt--you made that up. I think calling out a bullshitter like ES or GG as a bullshitter is entirely constructive--you just don't like the POV, so you're getting shirty and criticizing the poster's "style" instead of refuting the content of the posts.

You can certainly pass judgment all you'd like, but your opinions will get short shrift if you keep up with the "I don't like the way you make your point" posts. You're coming off as someone who has failed to make a cogent refutation. Your criticism is most certainly NOT constructive, in fact, you avoid the essential issues entirely by focusing on tangential stuff that doesn't really matter. You can't respond to the assertions that Snowden should have made copies of the emails, he should have put them on a thumb drive, that all these big "fireworks" revelations haven't amounted to shit, so instead you whine about the way these points are presented. They're not "serious" enough for you, or whatever. Pfft!

Now, instead of speaking to those points, you're pointing a finger at ME and whining that I am "defending" someone who you and ONLY YOU say is "only here to disrupt." You say that like it is a fact, but it's not a fact--you invented that point. And then you make some lame argument that I'm not immune from criticism when you've done nothing but avoid the essential conversations in this thread, and instead focused entirely on personalities.

It's terribly obvious what you're doing--you're avoiding focusing on the substance, those key points that were made, quite clearly too, and griping about style to try to get away from having to explain why a guy who stole thousands of documents couldn't steal a few copies of his own goddamned emails. You're avoiding that point like the plague. It's visible from a country mile away, you see.