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Motown_Johnny

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19. IMO, 2020 should be an interesting year.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 10:49 AM
Jun 2014

By then, estimates show, that the white vote will have fallen to around 2/3s while the non-white vote will have risen to roughly 1/3. This really should be the breaking point for the (R)s. (see link below for context)

If you remember the "un-skewed polls" prediction in the last cycle, it was based on a ~74% white electorate. It turned out to be more like 72% and Pres. Obama won in an electoral landslide. Even in 2016 the electorate should be only about 69% white (give or take a little). I think the (R)s can still make a show of it in 2016, and if our nominee does something to self destruct then they might even have a shot at winning the White House.

By 2020 though, even a self destructive (D) may be able to still win. I think it is already to late for the (R)s to make any serious gains in minority votes by then. Even passing Immigration Reform today would not have a big enough impact simply because of the fact that the (R)s have been fighting it so long. The divide is clear and 6 years isn't long enough to breach that divide.


There are also estimates which predict renewable power (solar and wind) will reach grid parity as soon as 2020. At this point the entire rational for fossil fuels subsidies begins to fade away. Once clean renewable electricity can be purchased by the average consumer for the same price as coal produced electricity then the arguments that the (R)s have been making for decades become exposed for what they were. Just lies which hurt this country, and the planet, in order to benefit the fossil fuel industry which in turn financed political careers.

Then there is the 2020 census, and the redrawing of congressional districts based on those numbers. I think that this decade long disadvantage that we have been at will be somewhat reduced. I don't expect it to really end until 2030, but the 20s should not be as bad.


On a side note. Without "Obamacare", Medicare would go bankrupt in 2016. So we will need to do the math and figure out (as best we can) an exact date and make a HUGE deal about it when it comes around. Then from that day forward we can all point out that the people who wanted to repeal the ACA would have make Medicare go bankrupt and seniors would all be without health care. Over and over and over again, we need to beat that into the heads of everyone. Especially people who are actually on Medicare at the time.



Modern conservatism is not sustainable. I agree. The Republican Party may continue to exist in some form, but not as we see it now. It is this extreme form of faith based conservatism that simply can't continue on a national level. The extremists seem to be headed toward a regional party which will have little to no effect on national policy decisions. Just small havens for people who are able to believe what they want to believe no matter the evidence which points elsewhere. In time even this is unsustainable. It may take a generation or two, but eventually people in those havens will want to have some voice in national policy. I think that I am old enough to not see that day, but I am fairly sure it will come.








for context: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002975365


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The Republican Party is NOT Sustainable [View all] Michigander_Life Jun 2014 OP
Can't wait mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2014 #1
You can help. It's essential that we stop them now. It's a matter of upmost importance not only that retired rooster Jun 2014 #28
I am already mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2014 #36
I think the GOP is dead in the water! B Calm Jun 2014 #2
Well said! The GOP has managed to gather all of the creepy elements of the US under RKP5637 Jun 2014 #3
It does seem that a party that refuses to govern can't last but... Kablooie Jun 2014 #4
There will always be conservatives Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #6
Many religious minorities of all colors are actually conservative. Kablooie Jun 2014 #9
Virtually every survey I've ever seen suggests conservaties are a minority... CBHagman Jun 2014 #8
There is an anti-incumbent wave like no other building right now Generic Brad Jun 2014 #5
At the current rate neither party is sustainable pipoman Jun 2014 #7
And there it is, the proverbial hammer meet nail sentence..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #14
For the win. 1000words Jun 2014 #45
Gerrymandering and voter suppression Freddie Jun 2014 #10
Rush Limbaugh is keeping the dam from breaking. RoverSuswade Jun 2014 #11
I'm old enough to remember hearing this after Goldwater got creamed. CanonRay Jun 2014 #12
There's at least some evidence that your genetic theory is correct. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #37
After 1964 - Goldwater, everyone knew the Republican Party was dead. Hoppy Jun 2014 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #30
Hear! Hear! ReRe Jun 2014 #35
The Republicans may be in the minority, but as many have stated above they fight dirty. Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #15
That's what they said about us in 2005. Warpy Jun 2014 #16
There will always be a right, left and center madville Jun 2014 #17
The more parties, the better. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #18
I'm starting to think a coalition government would be better than what we now have. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #29
IMO, 2020 should be an interesting year. Motown_Johnny Jun 2014 #19
Excellent post Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #21
They will die before they change. n/t ReRe Jun 2014 #38
Adapt or die. EEO Jun 2014 #20
From your lips, er fingertips, to god's ears ybbor Jun 2014 #22
It's not the GOP that is unsustainable adieu Jun 2014 #23
I hope so, but many of them don't think so IronLionZion Jun 2014 #24
The One Percent Cartoonist Jun 2014 #25
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A new strategy is called for Cartoonist Jun 2014 #31
Totally agree indivisibleman Jun 2014 #32
All of my friends who were rabid Republicans now call themselves Independents... DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #33
You need to branch out and.... ReRe Jun 2014 #40
While I Would Like To Make A Positive Comment In Favor ChiciB1 Jun 2014 #34
ChiciB1 I am with you on your post undergroundpanther Jun 2014 #44
Parties changed, and sometimes die (Whigs, Federalists) but the right and the left endures. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #39
I have been around long enough sarisataka Jun 2014 #41
I believe many in their tent are awakening to the fact they've been tricked Snarkoleptic Jun 2014 #42
Gasping, dying... yet still alive... Blue Owl Jun 2014 #43
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