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74. Laws and policies are made based on what people do. Plenty of violent acts here made by anti-choice

Sat Jun 28, 2014, 03:57 PM

Jun 2014

protestors. Laws and policies need to be shaped to address that reality. Surely you remember that policies are made based on what people do, don't you, hack? Or do you cherry pick to suit your politics?

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If a woman felt threatened due to protesting outside of a family planning clinic... [View all] MinneapolisMatt Jun 2014 OP

and what happens now in "stand your ground" states? 0rganism Jun 2014 #1

Yes. MinneapolisMatt Jun 2014 #2

Did they ever. They allowed an individuals right to privacy to be infringed upon by a stranger, lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #77

It's more likely that the protestors would shoot the women visiting the clinics tularetom Jun 2014 #10

i could see it going either way 0rganism Jun 2014 #11

Seriously, my IMHO you sound unwell. Suggesting killing would WCLinolVir Jun 2014 #18

I think "excitement" was meant facetiously there... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #22

You cannot shoot someone for verbal harassment hack89 Jun 2014 #20

There were, hence the law. It wasn't just verbal. catbyte Jun 2014 #26

I doubt abortion protesters are verbally threatening to hurt people to their faces hack89 Jun 2014 #27

Saying they were going to burn for their sin ? lunasun Jun 2014 #30

Damnation is usually the threat of those who are unable to make good on more direct threats. JVS Jun 2014 #37

That is not a threat of physical violence hack89 Jun 2014 #38

Your claim is that people are incapable of using fire as a weapon? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #44

in context it could be a threat Niceguy1 Jun 2014 #45

If the person saying it had gasoline and matches in hand hack89 Jun 2014 #47

"You will burn to death" is not the same as "You will burn in Hell" JVS Jun 2014 #53

I read reports of threatening behavior, intimidation, pushing, shoving so that catbyte Jun 2014 #31

You don't need SYG to protect your life in public hack89 Jun 2014 #39

Unless the individual is African American... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #69

Do you have any specific examples? hack89 Jun 2014 #72

Apparently you don't subscribe to a newspaper... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #73

The prosecution witnesses would disagree with you hack89 Jun 2014 #79

Do people ever actually fall for this faux dumb-ass act you're peddling? Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #81

So it happens all the time hack89 Jun 2014 #82

Really? Who alleges this? X_Digger Jun 2014 #34

That has been my thought. I would surely wear a sign stating I did not wish to engage with any hlthe2b Jun 2014 #3

A person may use force to defend oneself or others if.. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #4

Do it like the Cops do. Downwinder Jun 2014 #7

Can the lunatic delusional frothing Christozombies pepper-spray the woman valerief Jun 2014 #5

Yikes. MinneapolisMatt Jun 2014 #6

No no! They are "gently counseling" them BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #36

I think that it would be one situation that I would avebury Jun 2014 #8

Well, the anti-abortion movement is a known domestic terror organization... NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #9

If she did that, she would very likely be shot. There is a substrate of real violence among them Hekate Jun 2014 #12

And yet they call themselves "pro life" ananda Jun 2014 #42

I loathe those protesters! janlyn Jun 2014 #13

Awesome! MinneapolisMatt Jun 2014 #25

Probably not maxrandb Jun 2014 #14

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #23

Interesting question. I wonder- in a stand your ground state, notadmblnd Jun 2014 #15

No - it would be murder hack89 Jun 2014 #21

hack, have you ever dealt with these people? Chan790 Jun 2014 #35

So why hasn't it happened yet? hack89 Jun 2014 #40

No, I don't think there needs to be any threats notadmblnd Jun 2014 #49

Letting a jury decide is one way to go hack89 Jun 2014 #52

There are 3 decades of murders and violence from rabid anti-choice protesters. blm Jun 2014 #57

The law is the law hack89 Jun 2014 #58

Such an expert - just like you were in defending Zimmerman at every turn. blm Jun 2014 #59

I am saying that SYG is not an unlimited license to shoot and kill hack89 Jun 2014 #60

LOL. Yeah.......sure. And your defense of Poppy Bush, Rev Moon, Issa, et al... blm Jun 2014 #62

You seem a little upset hack89 Jun 2014 #63

I am always at peace. And always comprehensive. blm Jun 2014 #64

Good. nt hack89 Jun 2014 #65

Laws and policies are made based on what people do. Plenty of violent acts here made by anti-choice blm Jun 2014 #74

We are a common law legal system hack89 Jun 2014 #80

Hmm, stand your ground law? WCLinolVir Jun 2014 #16

Better idea: you can volunteer to escort women ... frazzled Jun 2014 #17

That's an excellent suggestion! MinneapolisMatt Jun 2014 #24

Far too many folks here need to read their state's self defense laws. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #19

+1 No kidding! X_Digger Jun 2014 #33

DO NOT RELY ON THE INTERNET FOR LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING SELF DEFENSE!!! Lurks Often Jun 2014 #28

or even using pepper spray Niceguy1 Jun 2014 #46

Is it OK now to shout "Fire" in a crowded theater? nt SDjack Jun 2014 #29

Yes Kaleva Jun 2014 #41

"Feeling threatened" isn't the legal standard (much as some claim it is, SYG or not.) X_Digger Jun 2014 #32

Thanks to our Gun Enthusiasts, for urging restraint on Stand Your Ground. Paladin Jun 2014 #43

Others have gone over the standard pretty well already Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #48

If someone "feels threatened" by homeless people, is it legal to pepper spray them Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #50

Maybe we need some Pro-Choice Open Carry Escorts. alphafemale Jun 2014 #51

How about it, DU Gun Enthusiasts? Paladin Jun 2014 #71

Could she use Stand Your Ground? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54

If someone confronts me in a harrassing manner or I feel threatened In wil pepper spray them. Lint Head Jun 2014 #55

Just be prepared to convince a jury. Nt hack89 Jun 2014 #61

I will. I've prosecuted people for assault before. And if I'm threatened I will prosecute for Lint Head Jun 2014 #66

You will be the one being judged hack89 Jun 2014 #68

So far I'm batting a thousand. Lint Head Jun 2014 #83

Every time I see agroup of clinic protesters... displacedtexan Jun 2014 #56

Love it! GreenPartyVoter Jun 2014 #70

In VA there was a program called Pledge a Protester. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #76

What kind of life Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2014 #67

Isn't the buffer zone now eight feet? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #75

I think she could "stand her ground" and shoot them. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #78

Would it be Assault if I pushed that protester out of my way? HockeyMom Jun 2014 #84

Yes, that would be assault. X_Digger Jun 2014 #85