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TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
91. BULL
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jun 2014

It can happen to anyone that doesn't pay attention when they're behind the wheel. And like I said, if anyone operating a vehicle can remember their THINGS but not LIVING BEINGS in their car they're fucked in the head.

No possible way would I EVER forget my DOG in my car much less any other living passenger, and I already said why... because I'm ALWAYS acutely conscious about any living being in my car that when I'm driving I have responsibility for. Though there are times I might like to forget them, I CAN'T, and I CAN'T because of the grave responsibility I have when driving around any living being.

It's not at all like leaving your keys in the car or locking yourself out of the house. Keys are THINGS, and THINGS can be easily forgotten. LIVING BEINGS that are forgotten happens when the people with responsibility for their welfare stop being conscious of that fact. Leaving a living being in your car because you forgot they were there is like forgetting that your kid needs to eat or your dog needs to go outside to go to the bathroom. It is a shallow and wholely self-centered individual that needs that kid or that dog to remind them of their caregiver's responsibility to look out for their welfare.

Leaving your kid in the car because you forgot they were there is like going off to bed forgetting your kid is outside playing or in the bathtub, etc. But most people ARE conscious of where their kid or the dog is and their needs when not in the car because people have learned inappropriately that distracted driving is acceptable when it isn't and NEVER has been. Car manufacturers have more than helped this attitude along by making their cars full of things like GPS computers or cellphone chargers that give people the idea that it's perfectly ok to take your eyes off the road and fiddle with your GPS or yack on the phone, and now people are even texting on the phone while driving or using a laptop or pad.

Did you know that when car phones first came out people were constantly admonished to never talk on the phone while driving but to pull over to the side of the road and stop the car if they got a call or needed to call someone? That manufacturers made what was called "trunk phones" which were car phones meant to be kept in the trunk and only COULD be used by the driver stopping the car and going into the trunk for it so they wouldn't be talking while driving?

But once the cellphone came out that was small enough and cheap enough for the average person to have one all that safety stuff not only went away but car manufacturers just made it worse by including items in cars that shouldn't be used while driving because they're distracting.

Even old fashioned paper maps used to always be made in a huge size so that the driver HAD to pull over and stop to use one or have a passenger in the car use it so that the driver wouldn't be distracted by trying to follow map directions while driving.

Oh but now a days there's even GPS's that have a voice mode to tell you where to go so people get the impression that they don't need to think at all when they're driving. Before all this acceptance of distracted driving in recent history guess how many living beings were forgotten in cars? Practically none. Guess how many incidents of driving up over a sidewalk or crashing into a house or blowing through traffic lights by accident? Practically none. And those ones that did happen were more often than naught because of drunk driving or someone having fallen asleep at the wheel. And NO ONE made excuses for them that doing either was the least bit normal or acceptable.

But now distracted driving has become common even though people haven't changed other than society having taught them that being distracted or otherwise zombified while driving is a-ok. It's become so common that suddenly we even have obnoxious strobe-flickering red traffic lights for those people that are so fazed out while driving that they can't tell that there's a red light in front of them. Never mind that they cause headaches, vision problems and sometimes even seizures in many drivers, they're there because of there being so very much more distracted drivers that are so oblivious to a red traffic signal they now can't see it unless it strobe-flickers at them, too.

Even crosswalk and other signs aren't just bright glowing yellow anymore but now have a ring of similar vision problem and headache inducing flashing lights around them for the zombified driver to be made aware the sign is there. I've had to give up walking my dog down one particular street with one of these flashing crosswalk signs blinking and glaring away because neither me or the dog can stand the damn thing walking down the street in either direction, but the township decided these annoying blinking signs were needed for the distracted drivers oblivious to perfectly acceptable bright yellow traffic signs that are just as easily seen as they always were without the annoying blinking lights.

How is it that people don't forget their kids or their dogs when they're in the same room with them but DO forget them when they're in the car with them? Because distracted driving, not distracted living, is what has become acceptable. Anyone today that forgot their kid was in the same room with them so didn't remember to put them to bed before they went off to bed themselves or left the house entirely would be chastised as being a terrible parent, but suddenly we're supposed to believe that leaving that same kid in a hot car that will kill them in a slow and atrocious manner is just an unfortunate accident. BULL.

Anyone with kids that ride in the car should have a backseat mirror trained on what's in the back seat of the car if they're too distracted driving to remember to use the other mirrors already supplied to check the back seat. When my dog is in the car I constantly use the mirrors or even turn my head to look at how he's fairing for a seconds when stopped at a light and talk to him periodically to make sure he isn't scared or distracted by people or other dogs outside the car. Why aren't people doing this with their kids? Why is it that strapping a kid in a car seat is a good reason to forget to look out for what they're doing or how they're doing? And so much so that some people actually forget their presence in the car entirely? Because society has taught people that distracted or even zombified driving is just fine when it never used to be and when they would never forget their kid in the home or anywhere else.

A POX on this excuse making. All it does is absolve people of forgetting their responsibility to any living being passengers in their car and gives the nod to permit it to continue. People SHOULD be roundly chastised for forgetting about a living being in their car just as they would by forgetting about a living being in their home or their yard or any place else when they're the caregiver of that living being and responsible for their welfare.

Forgetting a living being is in your car that you're responsible for their well-being is just like forgetting your keys in the ignition??? That's CRAZY not to say dangerous excuse making. FUCK THAT.

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Sure does sound very fishy! Laf.La.Dem. Jun 2014 #1
Yes, and just about as evil as it gets. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #3
I do not like to put guilt on a person until the full investigation yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #4
It does sound very bad. DawgHouse Jun 2014 #2
The most helpful thing I've seen is to always put your purse or briefcase in the backseat with the c yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #5
A legal CNN commentator, Sunny Hostin (?), says she left her daughter in the car for a few minutes MoonRiver Jun 2014 #6
I like that too yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #7
who told you it was illegal to drive without shoes on LOL snooper2 Jun 2014 #10
I've heard that, too. It might be one of those myths that persist. kcr Jun 2014 #15
I always thought it was illegal. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #18
Maybe that's where I heard it, too kcr Jun 2014 #19
It used to be before firewalls were made mandatory. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #40
I think that is on a state-by-state basis. Fawke Em Jun 2014 #68
nope, and there is only one state that says you have to wear shoes snooper2 Jun 2014 #71
Speaking from a personal experience In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #72
That is also a good idea because not everyone carries a purse or briefcase. DawgHouse Jun 2014 #22
I know that arrangement was probably safer but I never liked it. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #25
The move to the back was because of airbags. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #42
I don't think it's illegal to drive without shoes. DawgHouse Jun 2014 #24
Many article mention leaving work shoes in the back seat csziggy Jun 2014 #85
it's sick that anyone would remember their purse or their briefcase TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #76
Except that it can happen to anyone... JHB Jun 2014 #81
BULL TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #91
It's not excuses, it's prevention. JHB Jun 2014 #98
Torch, please please please read the article that JHB posted above me. Please. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #84
I wonder if the police have investigated his financial situation MoonRiver Jun 2014 #8
of course they would have TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #78
What bothers me the most is that he went back to the car at noon... Frustratedlady Jun 2014 #9
Maybe because you want to prevent it. kcr Jun 2014 #11
He also googled about how long it takes a dog to die in a hot car. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #13
That's the google I'm talking about. kcr Jun 2014 #14
I don't understand how someone can be "prone" to leaving a child in a hot car. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #16
Fatigue. ADHD. Or both. kcr Jun 2014 #20
How do you explain his going back to the car mid-day? MoonRiver Jun 2014 #23
He didn't see the baby, just like while he was driving. kcr Jun 2014 #27
Maybe he was checking to see if the child was dead yet. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #29
But he googled it. He would know, right? kcr Jun 2014 #31
Because if the baby were already dead he could report it right then. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #35
That's really reaching kcr Jun 2014 #37
You haven't been around babies much, have you? BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #70
I have children kcr Jun 2014 #73
According to the search warrant, he told police he googled about infant deaths in hot cars pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #17
Because he was fearful it could happen. kcr Jun 2014 #21
Your naive belief in the innate goodness of people is misplaced but uplifting. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #26
It has nothing to do with that. I'm fully aware that there are parents capable of this. kcr Jun 2014 #28
Everybody who has heard about this case is speculating. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #32
I'm not speculating either way. I don't know if he did it on purpose. kcr Jun 2014 #34
Most of us can see no other logical explanation. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #38
Of course those who are jumping to a conclusion see no other explanation. kcr Jun 2014 #39
That's not fair. kcr is not "supporting" him, he/she is simply waiting for all the facts. arcane1 Jun 2014 #101
Yep. laundry_queen Jun 2014 #36
Being aware that people like that exists doesn't mean accidents don't happen. kcr Jun 2014 #41
If this guy is convicted of murder, will you except the jury's decision. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #43
More jumping to conclusions kcr Jun 2014 #44
I was just asking how you would react. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #45
Well, seeing as you didn't answer my question kcr Jun 2014 #46
I would never assume such a thing. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #48
Okay. But then what did you mean by it? kcr Jun 2014 #49
Well I deleted the sentence, so obviously I did not assume anything. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #51
So you accidentally typed that you wondered if I had an agenda, but didn't mean it. kcr Jun 2014 #52
I thought twice about it. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #55
Yes, but I still wouldn't blame the person for wondering. n/t kcr Jun 2014 #56
Who's blaming you? MoonRiver Jun 2014 #57
I kept asking because you wouldn't answer. kcr Jun 2014 #58
Ok, then MoonRiver Jun 2014 #60
Why? To find out what your chances of getting away with it might be. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2014 #12
In the midst of all this rush to judgment... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #30
I believe the googling happened days before he left the child in the car. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #33
a 22 MONTH old, though? hfojvt Jun 2014 #47
Have you raised a child? MoonRiver Jun 2014 #50
At that age, they're generally not strong enough to open the belt straps on the car seat. Brickbat Jun 2014 #53
Car seats for kids that age are designed so they can't get themselves out. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #65
A 22-month-old wouldn't have the hand strength to open the buckle on a carseat. winter is coming Jun 2014 #66
oh yeah? hfojvt Jun 2014 #67
!!!! Heidi Jun 2014 #75
Do you even understand the implications of your comment. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #69
Car seats are specifically made gollygee Jun 2014 #86
Heat saps your energy. joshcryer Jun 2014 #99
Accidents happen but this doesn't seem like an accident Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #54
Another thing that I don't understand ann--- Jun 2014 #59
The on-site daycare was at the corporate headquarters a couple of miles away. Brickbat Jun 2014 #61
Not only that ann--- Jun 2014 #62
Here. Brickbat Jun 2014 #63
Corporate headquarters are often several buildings and not TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #77
Exactly the same thing I was thinking. Evidence of premeditation. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #79
I always park on the top level of parking garages jberryhill Jun 2014 #104
Why put the information online at all if people who look it up could just not leave infants in cars? JVS Jun 2014 #64
It was either the most unlikely, most horrible coincidence ever, Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #74
Because he had done it before. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #80
??? MoonRiver Jun 2014 #83
The mother researched it too BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #82
This is getting more bizarre by the minute. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #88
oh, good heavens TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #92
Yeah, she said a lot of weird things at the funeral BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #93
I heard the day care was at his work. boston bean Jun 2014 #87
That's a great point! ann--- Jun 2014 #89
Yep, 2+2=5 in this case. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #90
The daycare was on site, so he forgot to drop off and pick up? krawhitham Jun 2014 #94
There are many inconsistencies... Phentex Jun 2014 #95
According to CNN, Mom made similar searches krawhitham Jun 2014 #96
her saying that she wouldn't have had the child today TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #97
I think he's guilty. cwydro Jun 2014 #100
And, just as important ann--- Jun 2014 #102
No idea what this guy's intentions were, but ideas to prevent this: wercal Jun 2014 #103
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