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theHandpuppet

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44. Lip service and PR is not progress.

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:48 AM

Jun 2014

"A difference which makes no difference IS no difference."

Get back to me when the Pope isn't inviting France's most virulent, anti-gay hatemonger to a private mass, when the bishops and Archbishops of Uganda and Nigeria have been defrocked, when the scores of lawsuits against contraception coverage have been dropped, when he isn't giving his seal of approval to an anti-gay hate march in Washington, when women are offered an equal place in the church, when the crackdown on progressive nuns is history and his minions in the church heirarchy aren't pouring millions of dollars into anti-gay legislation.

Until then, the PR firm can continue working overtime to convince us that the emperor really is wearing a new set of clothes.

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Pope Signals Near Openness to Same Sex Families [View all] Katashi_itto Jun 2014 OP

"Near openness" Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #1

Everything evolves. Look how our govt went. Steps in the right direction are still steps. Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #2

Our government is not subject to Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #5

So better they stay with their old view? Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #8

Nothing has changed. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #11

Nothing has changed. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #12

Nonsense. PR is far more important than policy Shivering Jemmy Jun 2014 #51

That phrase 'near openness' is your own and not from the source article Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #24

It's a step above: We won't stone them or burn them at the stake marshall Jun 2014 #4

It is no step at all. Nothing has changed. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #6

Nothing has changed? Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #17

You see this as being all about the bullies, not about their victims at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #20

Those old bigots in the Vatican have not been allowed to execute anyone since July of 1890 Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #18

Okay, it's one step in a 26-mile marathon; the Catholic Church gotta LONG way to go. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #46

As long as gay people are 'discreet'; and as long as they don't have any children muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #9

Exactly. They still support fights against equality and autonomy. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #10

That's quite clear in paragraphs such as these theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #29

How much arrogance and lack of awarness does it take for Catholic Clergy to preach about children? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #14

I can nearly fly if I flap my arms NightWatcher Jun 2014 #42

LOL!! theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #48

"It distinguished between gays who are "discreet" in their lifestyle and those who actively, PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #3

Right On! Kath1 Jun 2014 #7

He signals no such thing and what they do say is offensive. This is not really right, to post Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #13

This is how change starts. onehandle Jun 2014 #15

I don't want religion to 'die', I want their involvement in secular matters to die. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #16

Stop harrassing us. Stop trash talking, stop encouraging violence against us. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #21

Whooopdee-freeakin'-doo... SidDithers Jun 2014 #19

It's amazing to me how many OP titles claim the Pope said something good when he said nothing at all Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #22

Lol! Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #23

That post you replied to is a really barrel o' laughs, huh? PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #25

What's he going to do, fess up to his own actions? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #27

It's a work of fakery. Everything I said is absolutely true, but you can not say the same. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #26

You are always posting the same thing over and over. Why shouldn't I laugh? Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #28

Because bigotry is not funny. And because adults should be able to defend their own words Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #30

And you are always defending the bigoted dogmas of the church theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #31

According to you. It's the old either for your with us or against us deal. Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #33

There have been no advances theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #36

According to you. I differ. The conversation is actually starting in fits and starts. Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #37

Lip service and PR is not progress. theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #44

Here is an actual headline from a nicely balanced Opinion piece. You should read it. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #38

Here's another piece you should read. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #40

No he's not. Everything Francis has said is just restating what the Catechism has said for years: NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #50

Yes but a celestial bat signal has been transmitted. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #45

Any thread about the Pope becomes a bat signal. rug Jun 2014 #52

What the article actually says: Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #32

Baby steps. Tetris_Iguana Jun 2014 #34

It would be nice if it was sooner. But not likely. Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #35

The Church is as free to be as much of bigoted institution as their leaders desire... theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #39

Selfish little baby steps by grown up adults while this goes on: Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #43

sounds like a kindler, gentler bigotry fishwax Jun 2014 #41

Unrec. Wrong forum. Contains nothing new to talk about. closeupready Jun 2014 #47

No. All this does is affirm the Church's LONG-STANDING policy, NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #49