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pampango

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11. The safety net in Europe is still stronger than anywhere else in the world. Are conservatives there
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jun 2014

trying to weaken it. Of course. When do conservatives not do that? That is no reason for liberals to abandon the fight and the institution.

Furthermore the EU aren't liberal in the American sense ...

Taxes are higher and more progressive, unions are stronger, incomes are distributed much more fairly, the middle class is stronger than anywhere else in the world.

Yeah, it sounds like European liberals are real "neo liberals" and "libertarians".

Of course, there are undoubtedly many liberals who oppose some EU policies. However, the massive effort to weaken or eliminate the EU, as an institution, is indisputably coming from parties on the far right.

And that far right opposition is not the result of too much "libertarianism" or "neoliberalism" from the EU. The far right's opposition is because they view the EU as much too liberal for their tastes

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The EU is not "becoming unpopular there" except with parties on the far right which have hated it pampango Jun 2014 #1
EU governance is fairly widely mistrusted. newthinking Jun 2014 #4
If they are seriously critiquing it for destroying the safety net they are not right wingers. betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #9
The safety net in Europe is still stronger than anywhere else in the world. Are conservatives there pampango Jun 2014 #11
The Eu are attacking all those things betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #12
Liberals brought the EU and European integration about. Conservative nationalists have fought pampango Jun 2014 #13
NEO Liberals brought about Eu integration betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #15
If you think that countries working together and cooperating to find solution is 'neoliberal' pampango Jun 2014 #16
I don't think you polled the typical betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #18
As one of those Americans who understands nothing about Europe, I'd have to say that traveling to Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #2
Nice try. I have spent significant time there as well. More than I few franks I have lived there. newthinking Jun 2014 #3
"Maybe others can expand." Quantess Jun 2014 #5
So are you saying there is not discontent in the management of the EU? newthinking Jun 2014 #6
No, that was not what I meant. Quantess Jun 2014 #7
That may be true, but Putin is still an authoritarian dick. Throd Jun 2014 #8
That maybe true betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #10
Slightly better than the U.S.A. oligarchy shit... hunter Jun 2014 #14
Plus their Alliance with NATO...coming into Play with Ukraine Deal with EU... KoKo Jun 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #19
I don't know about the bilderberg angle, newthinking Jun 2014 #20
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