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betterdemsonly

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12. The Eu are attacking all those things
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jun 2014

They have destroyed unions, privatized health care, the Universities, and eliminated pensions. The fact that those things still exist doesn't mean the Eu caused it. It is like saying that if someone with a bunch of leeches on their body still has blood that the leeches produced the blood. The Eu as an institution is not savable because it mandates austerity. It also mandates bank control over monetary policy, rather than democratic control. Keynesiaism is against the law in the EU. It is illiberal as hell and can not do anything but destroy whatever social democracy is left, because that is the way it was designed. The fact that it's opponants are nationalists doesn't not make it progressive. Libertarians are globalist too, and sure as heck aren't progressive in any way. I don't support free trade that destroys labor regulations and environmental regulations. Don't claim that is liberal in the American understanding of the word. It is liberal in Eu understanding, which is more like Peter Thiel.

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The EU is not "becoming unpopular there" except with parties on the far right which have hated it pampango Jun 2014 #1
EU governance is fairly widely mistrusted. newthinking Jun 2014 #4
If they are seriously critiquing it for destroying the safety net they are not right wingers. betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #9
The safety net in Europe is still stronger than anywhere else in the world. Are conservatives there pampango Jun 2014 #11
The Eu are attacking all those things betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #12
Liberals brought the EU and European integration about. Conservative nationalists have fought pampango Jun 2014 #13
NEO Liberals brought about Eu integration betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #15
If you think that countries working together and cooperating to find solution is 'neoliberal' pampango Jun 2014 #16
I don't think you polled the typical betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #18
As one of those Americans who understands nothing about Europe, I'd have to say that traveling to Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #2
Nice try. I have spent significant time there as well. More than I few franks I have lived there. newthinking Jun 2014 #3
"Maybe others can expand." Quantess Jun 2014 #5
So are you saying there is not discontent in the management of the EU? newthinking Jun 2014 #6
No, that was not what I meant. Quantess Jun 2014 #7
That may be true, but Putin is still an authoritarian dick. Throd Jun 2014 #8
That maybe true betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #10
Slightly better than the U.S.A. oligarchy shit... hunter Jun 2014 #14
Plus their Alliance with NATO...coming into Play with Ukraine Deal with EU... KoKo Jun 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #19
I don't know about the bilderberg angle, newthinking Jun 2014 #20
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