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jeff47

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25. Unfortunately, a lot of those hopes weren't based on anything.

Reply to Doctor_J (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 11:52 PM

Jun 2014

For example, lots and lots of people on DU claim they voted for Obama in 2008 so that we'd get out of Afghanistan. And they were pissed when he didn't immediately pull out.

He campaigned on staying in Afghanistan. In fact, he was calling for additional troops during the campaign.

An enormous amount of that "sea change" you describe is similar. It's people deciding Obama must be for _______ despite candidate Obama saying nothing or saying the opposite.

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WTF ...15 [View all] pbmus Jun 2014 OP

There was no way single payer would pass: boguspotus Jun 2014 #1

Thanks! freshwest Jun 2014 #2

Unfortunately that's true...nt pbmus Jun 2014 #3

Didn't they even have to appease Lieberman too? boguspotus Jun 2014 #8

True, but had our side started negations there... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #7

Two-thirds of Americans wanted single payer. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #11

This is true. What is the point of electing them if they are feckless? Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #14

Not you're getting to why so many 2008 (D) voters stayed home in 2010 Doctor_J Jun 2014 #17

Unfortunately, a lot of those hopes weren't based on anything. jeff47 Jun 2014 #25

Yeah, if they weren't so feckless they would have passed it even if they didn't have enough votes! drm604 Jun 2014 #33

If they weren't so feckless they would have gotten the votes. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #34

Still waiting for you to explain how they could have gotten Lieberman's vote. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #18

If Lieberman's vote was needed, the solution MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #19

Lieberman's vote was needed. And your link's busted. jeff47 Jun 2014 #20

Link's fixed, sorry. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #21

60th. And there were only about 20 votes for killing the filibuster jeff47 Jun 2014 #22

Interesting. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #24

Nope. The ACA was passed as two bills. jeff47 Jun 2014 #26

Ah. I'll check that out, thanks. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #27

The gear, valve, pipe and boiler lobbies ThoughtCriminal Jun 2014 #4

Because it would not have passed Congress, is the answer. And try he did..... Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #5

Great cartoon Gothmog Jun 2014 #6

Obamacare has worked great for my family - 1st time we've had healthcare in 12 years bhikkhu Jun 2014 #9

Because Big Insurance owns a big chunk of the government, including the white house Doctor_J Jun 2014 #10

Correct. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #12

They sure as hell owned Lieberman. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2014 #13

Right you are, Doctor_J. Unknown Beatle Jun 2014 #15

I am a doctor of something Doctor_J Jun 2014 #16

We have a strong foundation for single payer .. at least President Obama got that started and it's Cha Jun 2014 #23

I am all for thanking Obama when he deserves thanking .... pbmus Jun 2014 #28

Yeah, keep harping about insurance companies.. they love it that they have to accept Cha Jun 2014 #30

Did you tell him/her that we already have single payer and that it would pbmus Jun 2014 #31

All that machinery makes me think of how this Congre$$ Amonester Jun 2014 #29

Lieberman should have woken up with a horse head in his bed mwrguy Jun 2014 #32