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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:34 PM Jun 2014

Gore not becoming President: whose fault? [View all]

Who do *you* think is most responsible for Gore not becoming President on 1/20/2001?


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Ralph Nader
3 (4%)
George W. Bush
1 (1%)
Al Gore
9 (13%)
The Supreme Court
51 (73%)
Jeb Bush and his Florida cronies
1 (1%)
Not sure, but Nader wasn't the primary problem
2 (3%)
Other
3 (4%)
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It was actually more than one thing Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2014 #1
The Supreme Court mainstreetonce Jun 2014 #4
Yes, if Al Gore had won his home state of Tennessee, Florida wouldn't have mattered. Electric Monk Jun 2014 #19
Tennessee was a little Florida when it came to vote fraud Samantha Jun 2014 #30
I don't believe voter fraud was to blame for Gore losing TN Reter Jun 2014 #39
Well, we will just have to disagree over this Samantha Jul 2014 #72
Why would he win that state? treestar Jul 2014 #97
Maybe because they elected him Senator earlier? HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #130
If nader didn't run Gore could have spent more time in TN instead of NM, WI, IA, and OR. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #102
Yes many factors, along with distorted media. gordianot Jun 2014 #14
Actually, the NRA via: W.VA and TN. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #86
Yes, perfect storm treestar Jul 2014 #93
The American Electorate. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #2
The American electorate voted for Gore Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #17
No, they did not. Between 40 and 45% of the electorate didn't vote at all. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #38
Yes they did Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #47
So the only people concerned enough to vote voted for Gore? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #58
By your criteria, no president has ever won an election Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #62
I suggested no such thing. I did say the electorate did not vote for Gore... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #65
Put it this way-- the Americans who cast their votes in November 2000 preferred Gore Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #66
WINNER! Cosmocat Jul 2014 #89
It was the butterfly ballot BainsBane Jun 2014 #3
Many things were to blame and fuck those who try to defend any of them JI7 Jun 2014 #5
Multiple, but Nader was a key. Without Nader, Gore wins. onehandle Jun 2014 #6
Gore did win. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #11
BINGO!!! SCOTUS...to blame for stopping the recount. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #88
Assuming Nader voters were Democrats AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #24
One half of one percent of them could have prevented Bush. onehandle Jun 2014 #25
Nader got 1% of Republican vote AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #29
LOL! onehandle Jun 2014 #37
1% is almost ZERO appeal AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #40
Oh, AgingAmerican! Maedhros Jul 2014 #105
Your reliance on party registration is ludicrous. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #112
13% of Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000 AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #118
So bleeping what? Jim Lane Jul 2014 #119
Do the math AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #120
True. Far more than voted for Nader. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #133
Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #127
No, he folded because he didn't want to see an open revolution in the Country Samantha Jun 2014 #42
Yeah, right AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #44
Open revolution, my ass. There was never any real chance of that. winter is coming Jun 2014 #57
There was no single culprit. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #7
You might want to edit your post. There's a part in the middle where you appear to be winter is coming Jun 2014 #8
Translating...... "rim c;ao,omg tjat tjere os mpt dofferemce betweem" Electric Monk Jun 2014 #12
Thanks; that makes more sense. It was kind of like autocorrect on acid there for a while. n/t winter is coming Jun 2014 #16
yes sorry for the confusion. I'm posting from my hospital bed and my fingers no work so good. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #20
Oh! Sorry; I didn't realize you were in the hospital. winter is coming Jun 2014 #23
Tomorrow or the day after, depending on the pain. Thanks. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #41
I chose other because you didn't have the "corporate media" as a choice. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #9
Yeah, the corporate media certainly stunk to high heaven Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #27
"Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet" Which I believe truly explains their vitriol toward Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #34
Al did NOT claim to invent the internet. Punkingal Jul 2014 #90
You should read the post you just replied to. winter is coming Jul 2014 #91
Precisely, that's the point of my post. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #94
+1000 LondonReign2 Jul 2014 #101
Thanks, LondonReign, I view the corporate media as the Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #103
Not Nader's fault. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2014 #10
You're right. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #18
I think a reasonable case could be made Gore would have won NM, WI, IA, and OR by bigger margins hrmjustin Jul 2014 #108
FAR more Dems voted for Bush than Nader. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #134
And republicans voted for Gore. This is normal and happens every election. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #135
I voted Supreme Court but let us not forget that freak of nature, Marie Marie Jun 2014 #13
She was the bu$h campaign's co-chair in Florida Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #28
It was a number of things. . . Stargleamer Jun 2014 #14
+1. n/t winter is coming Jun 2014 #21
Al Gore. Shitty campaign n/t leftstreet Jun 2014 #22
Al Gore, decided to play lap dog BlueStreak Jun 2014 #54
I'm amazed that nobody's clicked "Gore" yet. He wasn't a good campaigner. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #26
He ran away from a "popular incumbent" Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #55
That was stupid at the time and still seems stupid in retrospect. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #56
Gore won the popular vote Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #59
The economy was flying. It shouldn't have been close enough to steal, lose or fuck up in any way. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #63
Reagan was a moron, too Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #64
Bush being a fucking idiot was seen as a positive at that time JI7 Jul 2014 #69
Voters? moondust Jun 2014 #31
I didn't mean to vote three times for the Supreme Court Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #32
The voters Mz Pip Jun 2014 #33
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, Maedhros Jul 2014 #107
1, 2 & 3 G_j Jun 2014 #35
Supreme Court because they are supposed to uphold the law. Brother Jeb second McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #36
4 and 5. nt LWolf Jun 2014 #43
USSC, BushCo. cronies, conservative Democrats, Gore, yellow, mealy mouth Democrats in that order. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #45
If you blame Nader, you legitmize Bush. morningfog Jun 2014 #46
Would you extend that principle? Jim Lane Jul 2014 #113
All of those things are irrelevant when the critical point is aknowledged: Gore won. morningfog Jul 2014 #116
I try to pre-empt the "but Gore won!" response Jim Lane Jul 2014 #117
I don't think I can say but-for Nader, Gore would have won. morningfog Jul 2014 #121
the American sheeple reddread Jun 2014 #48
Gore may not have became president but he did win damnedifIknow Jun 2014 #49
Fuck Ralph Nader whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #50
Katharine Harris and Jeb Bush paying Diebold $4 million to cleanse the voter rolls of minorties Tony_FLADEM Jun 2014 #51
If Democrats keep focusing on the past Jenoch Jun 2014 #52
Jeb Bush, who refused a state wide recount Warpy Jun 2014 #53
In the end, it was Gore's fault BillZBubb Jun 2014 #60
It's the politicians job to convince voters to vote for him/her. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #61
After re-watching George Carlin: Jammin' in New York, I wonder if he voted Nader in 2000? Electric Monk Jul 2014 #67
While other people had an effect, Nader was the single progressive with the greatest pnwmom Jul 2014 #68
i blame bill bradley. the gnewz media, AND nader. pansypoo53219 Jul 2014 #70
It was Bush. mattclearing Jul 2014 #71
Am I the only person on this forum who remembers the PMRC? beerandjesus Jul 2014 #73
Where's Choicepoint? lame54 Jul 2014 #74
SCOTUS and all the Republican voters who stacked that court. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #75
how about the damn media? ragging on gore's sighs and sweaters and supposed "lies"? unblock Jul 2014 #76
That's a good point MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #77
oh, they were so tough on shrub. the teetotaler you'd love to have a beer with! unblock Jul 2014 #80
Thank you! Punkingal Jul 2014 #92
the media was complicit noiretextatique Jul 2014 #124
Seeing how Gore really won Florida, the Supreme Court is the only logical answer! B Calm Jul 2014 #78
I blame the Democratic reviewers who approved the wonky design of the Palm Beach ballot LonePirate Jul 2014 #79
but even with all the dirty shenanigans that went on in Florida, Gore still had more votes. B Calm Jul 2014 #82
The SC would never had intervened as there would have been no month long recount LonePirate Jul 2014 #83
There are a lot of different angles and reasons to blame, but B Calm Jul 2014 #85
Supreme Court. It was not Nader... truth2power Jul 2014 #81
You should have also included the spinless Dems in Congress as an option...nt joeybee12 Jul 2014 #84
Florida cronies Aerows Jul 2014 #87
Diebold Indicted: Its spectre still haunts Ohio elections mia Jul 2014 #95
climate change ? NM_Birder Jul 2014 #96
Jeb and Harris--but the people blaming Nader KNOW that, as much as Rummy and Cheneybeast MisterP Jul 2014 #98
Nader , theft, and the Gore campaign. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #99
It was your fault, Manny. MineralMan Jul 2014 #100
When did the OP ever do that? KamaAina Jul 2014 #104
It's obvious to anyone who *really* pays attention MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #109
The Mineral Manny sig is creepy HangOnKids Jul 2014 #111
Is this my fault, too? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #110
Sandra Day O'Connor in particular El Supremo Jul 2014 #106
chad, nader, then Peggy Noonan and Tweety bigtree Jul 2014 #114
I refused to select because trying to name one is comparing apples and oranges. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #115
Just so no one gets confused... Oakenshield Jul 2014 #122
SCOTUS deserves ALL the blame noiretextatique Jul 2014 #123
You need a Jeb AND Supreme Court option yurbud Jul 2014 #125
It was my fault... kentuck Jul 2014 #126
three words tip it Jeb: FELON VOTER PURGE of 82,389 mostly black voters yurbud Jul 2014 #128
I will never forgive Nader RandySF Jul 2014 #129
Plenty of blame to go around. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #131
Many reasons, but ultimately Al Gore. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #132
Wow, more blame for Gore than Nader. joshcryer Jul 2014 #136
Why is this a surprise? I expected this outcome.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #137
DU was created due to Gore being sabotaged! joshcryer Jul 2014 #138
Who's placing most of the blame on Gore? Not this poll...... socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #139
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