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In reply to the discussion: "we want to punish the Democrats, we want to hurt them, wound them" [View all]joshcryer
(62,265 posts)Even if I disagree with him on cap and trade and offsets he has been the leader on climate change, bar none. His nobel prize is well deserved and history will prove that.
Obama's use of targeted killing is reprehensible, but he does so with the implicit consent of the states where he does it. Pakistan, for example, has had politicians for calling shooting down the drones. They have not been elected. Drones are easily shot down, they're slow, have a large radar profile, and are generally stopped. Obama has done what any President with power has done, used whatever he can to fuck shit up. I am against targeted killing and I am for any state in which Obama commits to targeted killing filing charges at the ICC for war crimes. So far none have done so. Which tells me some private agreements exist and he's acting within those states' desires.
Other than that Obama has fulfilled his 2008 nomination speech to the tee. From cutting the deficit to getting Bin Laden. Dude hasn't deviated where it was within his power. People complain about the mandate, but he was forced to accept it, as per Sanders, because the CBO said that not doing so would be more costly (as, of course, Krugman, Hillary Clinton, and others, noted years earlier).