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In reply to the discussion: Men’s rights conference takes aim at feminism [View all]JoyinTorah
(4 posts)I've monitored the activities of AVFM for years before it became something the media talked about. They are indeed a hate group bordering on cult status. The leader Paul Elam, rakes in about $100K or more a year by writing woman hating screeds with his friends on AVFM. He doesn't do anything for men and boys with the money either. He admits he pockets it. I don't know if links are allowed here but I'll put just one to my blog so you can see for yourself what a racket this Elam guy's got going.
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He also manufactured the 'feminist death threats' supposedly made to the original venue at the Hilton but the Detroit police NOR the hotel have reported any such threats. Elam told that story to raise another $33K and is now asking for another $20K. It's a huge money racket.
One highly respected MRA is telling other MRA"s at AVFM that Elam needs a quarter million dollars to help him overthrow something. Who knows what. Probably some silly lawsuit that was mentioned over and over at the conference.
The PR person for AVFM stated there will be more attacks and doxxing of individual women that AVFM doesn't like. They've already started harassing a female TIME reporter.
MRA's think that because a few women are involved with them that they aren't misogynists. One of the highest profile women, Karen Straghn, gave a 30 minute talk at the con about how Suffrage was a bad idea and that giving women the vote without 'responsibilities' was wrong. Yes, she literally talked about how ANY feminist struggle, including the right to vote, was a bad idea. In fact, her entire talk was based on anecdotes from the 18th and 19th century, taken out of historical context and made to paint women and feminists in a bad light. She admitted 'I'm an anti-feminist and I don't give a shit.'
Anyone here standing up for AVFM and MRA's should be treated with scorn and suspicion. You can't be for equality if you tolerate a hate group such as AVFM.
There is still a men's movement. It began in the 70's and remained alongside and friendly to feminism. However THESE current MRA movements are indeed male supremacy movements.