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Chucky-Doll

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74. Bull.

Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:27 PM

Jul 2014

The democrats were divided with their answers in this poll, and republicans weren't.

From The Maddow Blog:

"So when we look at the overall results and see Reagan in the #1 slot, it’s the result of a simple dynamic: Democrats split their vote and Republicans didn’t. (Indeed, among all 20th century presidents, there’s really only one president GOP voters celebrate, while Democrats tend to see a variety of presidential heroes.)"

"I put together this chart to highlight a simple truth: Democratic voters again divided their votes, split between Bush and Nixon, while Republican voters overwhelmingly chose Obama. As with Reagan, this partisan slant tilts the overall results."

Steve Benen at The Maddow Blog uses charts to explain how divided democrats slanted the poll.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-best-and-worst-modern-presidents

Dave Weigel who is no liberal, points out the same thing:

How To Read That Poll in Which Obama Is Seen as the "Worst President"
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/07/02/how_to_read_that_poll_in_which_obama_is_seen_as_the_worst_president.html?

The poll is bullshit. Just because you want to President Obama to be the worst president, doesn't make it true.

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WTH??? Poll taps Obama as 'worst president' since World War II [View all] a kennedy Jul 2014 OP

33-35% of Americans are Republicans. Dawgs Jul 2014 #1

I wonder by how much Repubs were over sampled for those polls. LonePirate Jul 2014 #2

Probably the only people who still have telephone land lines. Xipe Totec Jul 2014 #16

Pollsters reach me on my cell once every six months or so LonePirate Jul 2014 #45

So telephone polls are totally inaccurate. I have a land line, but I don't answer the phone valerief Jul 2014 #51

No, because that information is false. former9thward Jul 2014 #65

? I have a land line. I have a cell phone, too, but I don't leave it on. nt valerief Jul 2014 #66

You said telephone polls were inaccurate. former9thward Jul 2014 #70

No, telephone polls are inaccurate, because most people don't answer them. valerief Jul 2014 #72

So when the Obama campaign spent millions on polling in 2008 and 2012 former9thward Jul 2014 #75

Debunked so many times. former9thward Jul 2014 #64

Never been polled on a cell phone. If I am I'll report them for wasting my minutes. Xipe Totec Jul 2014 #80

I have been polled several times and I don't care about minutes. former9thward Jul 2014 #81

There *is* a law, but it's kind of strange... SeattleVet Jul 2014 #83

from the crosstabs Sassysdad Jul 2014 #55

Mission Accomplished MSM (blurred lines) + I saw this on Mornin Joe introduced for Politico to lead underpants Jul 2014 #3

Amongst people with land lines in their homes, I'm betting. MADem Jul 2014 #4

from their website fwiw steve2470 Jul 2014 #7

Hmmm..."Jitterbug" cell phones...? nt MADem Jul 2014 #8

what's a jitterbug cell phone ? young/teen user ? nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #9

The opposite--old folks, not too many features, big buttons! MADem Jul 2014 #12

ah ok steve2470 Jul 2014 #13

I don't always participate, and they come after me alot. MADem Jul 2014 #30

I think, in general, younger voters are not as interested in being polled steve2470 Jul 2014 #31

I think you're right on that score--it takes a specific issue to energize them. MADem Jul 2014 #33

very correct about the draft ! nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #34

Wouldn't a good study take that into account and weight accordingly joeglow3 Jul 2014 #69

good question nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #77

I don't either. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2014 #28

it says jitterbug cell phones? JaneyVee Jul 2014 #37

Marketed specifically to oldsters, so there's a skew in the poll right there Hekate Jul 2014 #68

I was asking if the poll said jitterbug cellphones. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #71

No, I was asking that question. MADem Jul 2014 #90

It is bad, and only going to get worse ... Cosmocat Jul 2014 #11

And don't have caller id (n/t) Retrograde Jul 2014 #73

Heh heh.... "Survey" is another way of saying MADem Jul 2014 #85

I'm surprised it came from the Quinnipiac pollsters...... a kennedy Jul 2014 #5

I'm not. They got raked over the coals for first, MADem Jul 2014 #15

This was their breakdown. former9thward Jul 2014 #67

Well, the right wing blogs accused them of weighting MADem Jul 2014 #86

I have not found that to be true in real life. former9thward Jul 2014 #87

I'm just repeating some of the trash the wingnuts put out. It's not my theory. MADem Jul 2014 #88

Polls AKA Propaganda. Tell me what you want, I'll construct a poll to get you RKP5637 Jul 2014 #6

You can see a hive-mind orgasm in progress about this over at The Discussionist Orrex Jul 2014 #10

No, YOU'VE been warned, as has been everyone who finds reading those ignorant opinions "fun." WinkyDink Jul 2014 #19

Easy there, fireball. Orrex Jul 2014 #23

Which is why I don't bother with that cesspit of wretched human refuse anymore... truebrit71 Jul 2014 #49

Yeah, it was fun to lurk at the beginning Orrex Jul 2014 #50

By what criteria? moondust Jul 2014 #14

Propaganda works. Every day, continually, radio calls him a tyrant, a dictator, etc. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #17

1st president to have a 24/7 network dedicated to his downfall spanone Jul 2014 #18

Approve or disapprove. Better or worse. But not why. Scuba Jul 2014 #20

Your assumptions are off, as usual Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #24

I didn't make any assumptions. Scuba Jul 2014 #25

This is also true for Hillary Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #27

That would be a pretty ignorant thing to do. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #39

Yes, he should only be attacked from the right, never from the left. Yeah, that's it. Scuba Jul 2014 #40

I'm glad you see it my way. Our success is invested in President Obama's legacy. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #43

Let the conservatives call him "worst", I don't care. I care about policy, and the efforts made ... Scuba Jul 2014 #48

Thank you. He represents a continuation of the corporate purchase of our government away from us. woo me with science Jul 2014 #47

Doom is GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #21

Current president will always come off as worst in this poll. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #22

reagan was voted as the best? *gag* m-lekktor Jul 2014 #26

Red Flag - Red Participants otohara Jul 2014 #61

("and romney would have been better") you must be right! m-lekktor Jul 2014 #63

No one called me gwheezie Jul 2014 #29

There Are So Many Variables grilled onions Jul 2014 #32

Any poll I see from Politico is questionable, especially when it is delivered mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #35

the poll is Quinnipiac. Even if they were commissioned by Politico cali Jul 2014 #36

Cali, Cali, CAli! mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #56

How can you call Bush a post-war president lame54 Jul 2014 #38

For millions of our fellow citizens, it's a whole different world. And that's the truth. cheapdate Jul 2014 #41

The only thing this poll proves is that a good chunk of Americans are morons. N/T BlueStater Jul 2014 #42

SMH Mr Dixon Jul 2014 #44

This proves it Robbins Jul 2014 #46

That's just what I was thinking Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #92

Before the 2012 election season started (overtly), merrily Jul 2014 #52

I would rank Reagan as worst gwheezie Jul 2014 #53

Democrats split their vote on who is the worst and Republicans all said O Pirate Smile Jul 2014 #84

Seen it all now damnedifIknow Jul 2014 #54

How could you have seen it all? nolabels Jul 2014 #58

I would have to believe that... kentuck Jul 2014 #57

I'll stick to what historians say. This is just a lot of embarassed W voters defensively digging in. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #59

Shit, there go his chances for a third term! edbermac Jul 2014 #60

Well, he is the worst president Spirochete Jul 2014 #62

Bull. Chucky-Doll Jul 2014 #74

So intent on picking a fight Spirochete Jul 2014 #89

33% is not a majority of Americans. muntrv Jul 2014 #76

My guess is that people are blaming the President for the lace of accomplishments napi21 Jul 2014 #78

I bet Obama is packing his bags over this Politicalboi Jul 2014 #79

Raygun accomplished a lot Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #82

Bullshit fadedrose Jul 2014 #91

Misleading headline from Politico. Ranking the Best Presidents ... WonderGrunion Jul 2014 #93