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VanillaRhapsody

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Wed Jul 2, 2014, 10:06 PM

Jul 2014

Four years ago, they were the most influential voting bloc on Capitol Hill, more than 50 House Democrats pulling their liberal colleagues to a more centrist, fiscally conservative vision on issues such as health care and Wall Street reforms.

Now, the Blue Dog Coalition is a shell of its former self, shrunken to just 15 members because of political defeat, retirements after redrawn districts left them in enemy territory and just plain exhaustion from the constant battle to stay in office. Several are not running for reelection in November, and a few others are top targets of Republicans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/blue-dog-democrats-whittled-down-in-number-are-trying-to-regroup/2014/01/15/37d4e7e2-7dfd-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

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Is left wing outrage as unhinged as right wing outrage? [View all] Fred Sanders Jul 2014 OP

Fred, our reaction is sane and justified. These important cases are harbingers. Anansi1171 Jul 2014 #1

You misunderstand. Of course, passion, of course. But accuracy is important, false passion based on Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #2

If accuracy were important you'd undrstand that why your comments about BC are in error kcr Jul 2014 #22

yet there are people on this board who still in the light of all that scotus is will still leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #3

It is a 5 to 4 court, with a couple of conservative Justices a bit wobbly on the con side. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #4

I will support any Dem candidate who Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #8

and here it is, the person who would cut off their foot to spite theeir leg leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #11

Why do you do that? Why launch into a personal attack like that? What do you think you gain? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #14

well to me the attitude of the poster is beyond mean not only to myself but to leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #23

That does not explain anything. You leave the issue aside and attack the poster personally. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #56

any democrat is better than any republican....hands down VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #66

So you'd vote for David Duke, avowed racist, because he 'ran as a Democrat'? Seriously? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #69

could david duke make it thru the primaries? leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #87

because we are not standing for wishy washy "Dems" VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #52

Listen up VR. I'm a second generation Democrat with elected officials in my family history Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #57

then stop pretending you dont know this.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #64

It's as if you did not even read what I wrote. Afraid to discuss issues, much like the OP. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #71

this is Democratic underground....not Third Party VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #74

Totally unresponsive and utterly inapplicable. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #105

Yeah you opinion gives me a sad.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #107

+3 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #114

+2 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #113

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #112

As far as I can tell, you and that mouse in your pocket ONLY stand for wishy washy Democrats. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #70

and who do you and the mouse in your pocket VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #75

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #83

!!! grasswire Jul 2014 #79

and they subsequently scored a hide for it... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #97

does anyone have the guts to post the jury results? grasswire Jul 2014 #99

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #116

I wouldn't say "Turd Way", personally grasswire Jul 2014 #122

No jury here, but... Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #129

it was PM'd to me grasswire Jul 2014 #133

You have 3 n/t HangOnKids Jul 2014 #130

and? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #134

Well you had to make a point that the post was hidden HangOnKids Jul 2014 #135

and? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #136

OH for fuck sake HangOnKids Jul 2014 #137

yea for fucks sake.....who's counting besides you? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2014 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2014 #145

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #115

I'm saying I won't vote for people who agree with the very Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #15

Not feeling exactly as you do perpetuates the two party system that is strangling democracy. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #21

no it isnt.....thats republicans. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #53

Now you are getting it. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #58

why now? i have always understood this... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #61

Really? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #68

i have always supported Democrats here and elsewhere VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #78

then you vote Republican instead VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #77

Well, no, no I don't. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #103

How is this weird....to we women...NOT voting for the Democratic Primary winner IS exactly VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #104

When you vote for all these blue dog so-called dems Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #106

What Blue Dogs....most of em got taken out by teabaggers in the last Midterm... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #109

My Congressman Kurt Schrader is a blue dog. Loves him some Cat Food Commission aka neverforget Jul 2014 #140

Okay your Congressman....did I say there were none? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #141

And here's the list of Blue Dogs. They exist and help Republicans. neverforget Jul 2014 #146

asdf VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #143

Yet they help enable Republicans and their policies and they call themselves Democrats. neverforget Jul 2014 #144

But they are not an influential power to the rest of the Democrats so you were off the mark there VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #147

Lol! 19 is a pretty large number of Democrats that vote with Republicans on economic neverforget Jul 2014 #148

its a fraction of the 50 they numbered 4 yrs ago....sorry.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #149

Just keep minimizing the Republican enablers.... neverforget Jul 2014 #150

they got themselves "minimized"..... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #151

I've never seen that. I have seen ... Scuba Jul 2014 #12

Stand or fall on your core principles. The cons do. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #16

principles are a luxury that wont do you any good without the power to hang on to them leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #28

Do you realize the folly in your statement? Scuba Jul 2014 #30

Purity is required of the left wing also? Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #31

Purity? No, but it's a long, long road from purity to the Third Way. Scuba Jul 2014 #35

It is a quandary, the standing on principals thing, because then what was the black voting for Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #36

"What good is power without principles?" that wasnt my statement leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #34

Nope, you said that sticking to principles would empower the Tea Party. I can't disagree more. Scuba Jul 2014 #37

you cant disagree more? people stuck to their principles in 2010 and what did that give us? leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #59

To suggest that the Tea Party victories in 2010 were due to the Democratic Party running .... Scuba Jul 2014 #63

'traditional Democratic Party principles' which are? leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #73

Well, they don't include chained-CPI, that's for sure. Scuba Jul 2014 #84

of those which are immune from tampering by the scotus leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #86

Do you disagree that these are traditional Democratic Party principles? Do you disagree ... Scuba Jul 2014 #91

no and i dont know but those are important to me but leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #92

Plus one a whole bunch. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #117

Abandoning our principles in favor of corporate donations is killing the Democratic Party. Scuba Jul 2014 #118

+1. Truer words were never spoken. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #120

i have been saying this anytime i get the chance SCOTUS is the most important issue leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #5

I have been posting and commenting, not here, for 6 years that the whole tea party idiocy based Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #6

I never appreciate the "calm down" comment vanlassie Jul 2014 #7

Lots easier to say "calm down" when one doesn't have a uterus or is a union member. bullwinkle428 Jul 2014 #9

Fuck that noise. JTFrog Jul 2014 #10

Oh good, another "Democrat" that LondonReign2 Jul 2014 #13

Fred, your posts always strike me as not just conservative but also religious in nature Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #17

Religious in nature? How ever you get that, it made me laugh! Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #18

I note that you failed to answer any of three very simple yes or no questions Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #24

Internet inquisitors of personal information are not my thing. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #27

And yet you are an internet preacher, using insults and personal invective willy nilly. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #33

Personal information? Nobody's asking for your phone number. winter is coming Jul 2014 #44

Fred refues to state his positions on the very issues he wants to advise us to remain silent about. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #46

Thank you for calling him out... tenderfoot Jul 2014 #81

I also want those who are in agreement with him to be called out Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #108

More hair needs to be lit on fire. The lack of fire on the Dem side is what kills us Armstead Jul 2014 #19

Only one thing needs to happen, and Obama repeats it until he must be crying himself to sleep. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #20

I don't disagree with the importance of that , but it is much bigger than that Armstead Jul 2014 #25

"Get voting to be a passion" Armstead Jul 2014 #50

OMG, you and I agree 100% on this, IronGate Jul 2014 #26

welcome to DU redqueen Jul 2014 #48

Thank you. IronGate Jul 2014 #54

welcoming is nice but just so you know he's a right-wing troll leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #88

It may not be as unhinged RadicalGeek Jul 2014 #29

What nonsense... ljm2002 Jul 2014 #32

I do not mean to offend. It turns out that internet chatting has that affect, I just call it like I Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #38

No offense taken... ljm2002 Jul 2014 #43

Very well said! countryjake Jul 2014 #93

Using words like unhinged and "hair on fire" don't help communications Armstead Jul 2014 #72

Please post a paragrahp describing your personal views on a woman's right to reproductive choice. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #39

Gotta go. World Cup preview on. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #40

USA, what a game! And Switzerland, Argentina, what a beautiful game. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #100

Women's equal right to healthcare coverage is nowhere near as important as men talking about sports! redqueen Jul 2014 #45

This poster is advising silence about the SCOTUS decisions so I asked if he is Pro Choice Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #49

That isn't about priorities, it is about ducking and dodging for the purposes of intellectually TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #67

The conservatives are chipping away at our individual rights. yallerdawg Jul 2014 #41

Dumbest post of the day. redqueen Jul 2014 #42

Unless Fred decides to grace us with another thread... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #47

I'm waiting with bated breath to hear what issue Fred will allow us wimminfolk to have Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #76

so basically , you don't understand the decisions or the ramifications. Why not just say so? bowens43 Jul 2014 #51

It is my sincere religious belief JEB Jul 2014 #55

Your response to the questions asked of you stage left Jul 2014 #60

In a word, NO. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #62

In these cases, yup. But that is par for the course at Du. There is always a contingent that has quinnox Jul 2014 #65

Wrong it's only four types- and wrong to make excuses for it- IF you are a Dem. Cannot belive I am bettyellen Jul 2014 #80

alrighty... tenderfoot Jul 2014 #82

Who is the lefty equivalent of Cliven Bundy? KamaAina Jul 2014 #85

It's not your rights that are infringed on...so it's no big deal. Marrah_G Jul 2014 #89

It's bad enough getting the smart ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #94

... Phentex Jul 2014 #95

Psssst.... ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #96

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair! H2O Man Jul 2014 #98

If you want to change the court MFrohike Jul 2014 #101

What's with all these people mistyping words to make a liberal site look stupid? valerief Jul 2014 #102

Et tu, Fred? smh Cha Jul 2014 #110

It is kind of funny to watch people Tweet @SCOTUSBlog Hissyspit Jul 2014 #111

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #119

FACTS from the ACLU to be disturbed by... Many very detailed cases at the link: freshwest Jul 2014 #121

Are you a Republican? PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #123

Wow, with friends like you... randys1 Jul 2014 #124

A little late to the piling on, there are more recent threads. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #125

I know, but wow man...never mind, i wouldnt know where to start randys1 Jul 2014 #126

Let me get this straight onecaliberal Jul 2014 #127

We do seem to have a few men here making all kinds of excuses for a RWing leaning court. Rex Jul 2014 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #128

Foxnews appreciates you doing their job for them! Rex Jul 2014 #131

Yeah, no kidding theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #139