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gcomeau

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13. They are the numbers as they are ALWAYS measured.

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 01:46 PM

Jul 2014

Any time those numbers get better and someone wants to draw attention away from them they try to point to different measurements that produce higher numbers while ignoring what THOSE numbers have historically been if we were to always measure things that way instead.

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Very few others are saying it, so I will. Congratulations, Mr. President. [View all] Nye Bevan Jul 2014 OP

Keep in mind those aren't the real numbers quinnox Jul 2014 #1

The ADP number yesterday (which is calculated completely independently) was also great. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #3

Nice Fox News talking points. Chucky-Doll Jul 2014 #5

Exactly. Welcome to DU. n/t FSogol Jul 2014 #8

Nicely put. Thank you. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2014 #47

Negative. It was simply a measure of more summer work.. Here is the ballyhoo Jul 2014 #51

You want the % to change? rtracey Jul 2014 #57

I agree with all that, but it's not going to happen without a revolt. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #58

hmmmm rtracey Jul 2014 #59

They are the numbers as they are ALWAYS measured. gcomeau Jul 2014 #13

"unemployment rate ... they drop several categories, like long term unemployed people" - Not true progree Jul 2014 #17

Must be hell Andy823 Jul 2014 #18

LOL. I knew this news would make you sad Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #19

Yep, right outta the gate. nt Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #22

Every time someone says this they neglect the boomers. joshcryer Jul 2014 #35

. minivan2 Jul 2014 #38

wow, that was alerted on? quinnox Jul 2014 #39

I'm gob-smacked too. I'm with Juror #4 on this one (and #1,2,3,&7) n/t progree Jul 2014 #42

it's a frivolous alert, and I'm glad the post stood because it gave people a chance to refute magical thyme Jul 2014 #46

Yep. You are right. Here is the real website ballyhoo Jul 2014 #50

Agreed! Congrats to the President and those who got a new job. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #2

Thanks Mr. President mcar Jul 2014 #4

Some of our DUers got new jobs too. Congrats to the Prez and them. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #6

Big K&R for this OP! mylye2222 Jul 2014 #7

K & R. n/t FSogol Jul 2014 #9

Could it be near 0 if the treacherous repukes didn't block every effort? joanbarnes Jul 2014 #10

No gcomeau Jul 2014 #14

I think lack of healthcare has been one of the things that puts the "floor" at about 5% bhikkhu Jul 2014 #49

agreed samsingh Jul 2014 #11

I like it when The President does something good navarth Jul 2014 #12

Good to give kudos when they are due. lark Jul 2014 #15

Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you Mr. President! denvine Jul 2014 #16

Congrats and thank you Mr. President ! steve2470 Jul 2014 #20

... Phlem Jul 2014 #21

If you look over a longer period, like a year, just 9.1% of new jobs were part time progree Jul 2014 #24

I just had a job interview today for part time work at Microsoft. Phlem Jul 2014 #32

I wish you the best of luck n/t progree Jul 2014 #34

K&R nt Andy823 Jul 2014 #23

kick!!! msanthrope Jul 2014 #25

KnR sheshe2 Jul 2014 #26

K&R quaker bill Jul 2014 #27

And the pay scale is about what it was 30 years ago with today's cost of living. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #28

Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers show it keeping up with inflation progree Jul 2014 #29

Not around here. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #30

The May 2014 number was inflation-adjusted back to 1982 - 1984 numbers progree Jul 2014 #33

Around here most people are lucky to make $10-12/hr. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #36

Yup, I hear you. The BLS numbers, even for "production and non-supervisory employees" are, well, progree Jul 2014 #41

20 bucks an hour! progressoid Jul 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author progree Jul 2014 #31

I think in this case, "No Drama Obama" was what was needed... First Speaker Jul 2014 #37

I've been looking for a post that talked about this.. thank you, Nye. Fun Fact.. Cha Jul 2014 #40

K Cha Jul 2014 #44

On the negative side OnlinePoker Jul 2014 #45

Part-time jobs went up by just 10 k while Full-time jobs went up by 2.1 M over the past 12 mos progree Jul 2014 #48

Too Bad - So Sad - That These Jobs Are Low Quality And Low Wage cantbeserious Jul 2014 #52

Hmm. Seems average earnings are more than holding their own against inflation progree Jul 2014 #54

Few Trust The BLS Numbers - We Have Been Lied To One Time Too Many cantbeserious Jul 2014 #55

How so? Provide some documentation. We should trust you instead? n/t progree Jul 2014 #56

kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2014 #53