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OKNancy

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163. reality? on DU

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:18 PM

Jul 2014

Half the people here wouldn't stay if they couldn't have hair-on-fire posts. Either that or unrealistic ideas about elections and politics.
I heard Dennis Kucinich had a chance to win back in '04 and '08. LOL

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I believe the corporate takeover of this country is a done deal [View all] cali Jul 2014 OP

when did rich people not control this country and hold all the power? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #1

It was more balanced for a while when there was 92% marginal tax rate. cali Jul 2014 #10

Yes! People either forget or are ignorant of things like this. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #18

Future generations forget the past, they did not experience it ... probably a significant portion of RKP5637 Jul 2014 #53

The lowering of the tax rates are a symptom of the rise in power. I admit that the very wealthy Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #88

Well-expressed. I like the Globetrotters-Generals analogy. Too close to the truth RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #89

You deserve a big +1! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #105

Two enthusiastic thumbs up for this post!! beerandjesus Jul 2014 #125

Third! bvar22 Jul 2014 #171

You're welcome, all! It's a truly scary document. It's not as though they didn't warn us! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #172

Academia should be corporate friendy swilton Jul 2014 #178

Yup. The political version of full-spectrum dominance. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #179

You should start this as a separate post. Really scary to see it in black and white! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #185

You win the internet today! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #104

Why thank you, thank you very much! He said in his best Elvis impression. Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #122

Reagan used to say, "Look at all the jobs in the newspapers." nilesobek Jul 2014 #181

one of less than 40% today airplaneman Jul 2014 #152

Yes. I wasn't including the convenient tax dodges that rich people employ. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #154

Keep in mind.... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #63

Thank you, HooptieWagon. Wonderful post. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #106

Add to that the stagnant worker wages for the past several decades and valerief Jul 2014 #129

Yep. And CEO compensation is soaring.... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #131

It's not balanced now, that's for sure fadedrose Jul 2014 #146

This is my take: Liberalynn Jul 2014 #46

Ever hear of Franklin Delano Roosevelt? Octafish Jul 2014 #141

Ah yes, the "insinuation by question." My guess is that you are insinuating rhett o rick Jul 2014 #173

Right? People around the world in much worse situations with none of our resources suceeded mahina Jul 2014 #180

It looks that way etherealtruth Jul 2014 #2

The corporate takeover took place around 1914. dilby Jul 2014 #3

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #6

Spot on. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #86

When they privatized might money ... of course! hedda_foil Jul 2014 #151

nationalize the fed questionseverything Jul 2014 #183

A corrupt Judge in Santa Clara County vs Southern Pacific Railroad in 1886 set the stage..n/t 2banon Jul 2014 #167

Reluctantly concur RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #4

All while we have been kept distracted and divided. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #5

Maybe today you feel that way, BootinUp Jul 2014 #7

Oh, I didn't say it wasn't worth fighting and that there aren't specific issues I cali Jul 2014 #13

Good! BootinUp Jul 2014 #15

It's not like a supernova. It's more like an LBO. nt Xipe Totec Jul 2014 #8

You make it sound like we will just keep Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #9

If the army sides with the 1% then a revolution has no chance. FiveGoodMen Jul 2014 #17

I don't think they would Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #19

Actually I agree with both of you here........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #24

Colin Powell Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #47

He swapped his integrity on that war for his son's appointment on the FCC 2banon Jul 2014 #168

With DHS and the militarization of local police, they have covered those bases. TPTB RKP5637 Jul 2014 #56

And since the Army feeds hate radio to the troops 24/7, Doctor_J Jul 2014 #158

It's gonna get ugly ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #11

That's jus cuz yer a hater! mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #12

Agreed. K&R nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #14

i fear you may be right..... spanone Jul 2014 #16

I am starting to think that more women and POC in our democracy is the only way to unfuck this. bettyellen Jul 2014 #20

So it's a done deal and it's probably not reversible. Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #21

no, I didn't say resistance was futile cali Jul 2014 #23

Well you're saying it's a done deal and it's not reversible Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #28

sigh. as I said, you don't do nuance. forget it, my dear. cali Jul 2014 #31

And you apparently have trouble remembering what you wrote just 30 minutes ago... Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #42

Ohm... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #73

What is done by humans can be undone by humans, we simply must fight to undo what has been done. K&R KJG52 Jul 2014 #22

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #62

+100000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #71

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #108

Ever read any William Gibson or Philip K. Dick? TransitJohn Jul 2014 #25

yes and yes and yes. cali Jul 2014 #32

I haven't read Gibson navarth Jul 2014 #138

I think the "done deal" has more to do with globalization. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #26

Totally agree. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #27

I believe you are full of poop if you believe that. MineralMan Jul 2014 #29

and I believe you are full of.... ordure, my Minnesota partyline pal cali Jul 2014 #34

I don't tell anyone what to believe, cali. MineralMan Jul 2014 #36

a difference without a distinction in this case, MM cali Jul 2014 #37

It's true. I do not believe that you believe what you wrote. MineralMan Jul 2014 #39

OK, based on what evidence, MM? I actually have some evidence to doubt you believe what you cali Jul 2014 #41

I have tried and failed. I shall try no more. MineralMan Jul 2014 #45

... SixString Jul 2014 #85

I see his truuuuueeee coooolors. morningfog Jul 2014 #90

well, she's walking it back upthread while talking to you about it, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2014 #49

Yup. MineralMan Jul 2014 #57

I'm walking back nothing, but feel free to make stuff up. cali Jul 2014 #82

I don't believe you bobduca Jul 2014 #134

It's true. joshcryer Jul 2014 #102

The problem with these types of charts is that they are often no accurate & can be outdated quickly davidpdx Jul 2014 #113

Of course, Comcast is about to buy out Time Warner. joshcryer Jul 2014 #115

Yes, consolidation is getting worse davidpdx Jul 2014 #116

The chart wasn't posted as some advocacy thing. joshcryer Jul 2014 #117

It was at the same link davidpdx Jul 2014 #118

I'm a big credit union advocate. joshcryer Jul 2014 #119

I do them because I live overseas davidpdx Jul 2014 #120

Yes, the machine is well in place, but I like the post five above mine: woo me with science Jul 2014 #30

Which they do their best to prevent through constant divisionary methods. They full well know RKP5637 Jul 2014 #66

+1 a whole fucking bunch. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #109

perhaps so - and it is kind of freeing to see it coming, BUT hopemountain Jul 2014 #33

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #35

LOL, thank you Uncle Joe! bettyellen Jul 2014 #50

Forget it he's rolling. Kennah Jul 2014 #98

The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Jul 2014 #38

^^^ THIS^^^ +++ 1,000,000 +++ K&R!!!n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #69

Not quite The Traveler Jul 2014 #40

I'm not in despair. It's just an observation and one that makes me cast a rather caustic eye cali Jul 2014 #44

I live in Georgia The Traveler Jul 2014 #59

The historical novelty is not that corporations are taking over YoungDemCA Jul 2014 #43

Exactly! Too many are submissive robots! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #72

That's history. defacto7 Jul 2014 #48

Smash the fascists! JEB Jul 2014 #51

Love this version! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #65

Yep, there's a lot of power in music. JEB Jul 2014 #67

money kardonb Jul 2014 #52

If we give the President a real Congress this Nov, a lot of can be undone..... marble falls Jul 2014 #54

+1 treestar Jul 2014 #114

Have you been watching the History Channel? YOHABLO Jul 2014 #55

No. I don't watch any tv. cali Jul 2014 #61

Yep. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #58

What happens if we have another Depression BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #60

I do fear that happening. A second Depression. StevieM Jul 2014 #78

It is true that much, even most of the wealth is an illusion. There are single markets TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #81

Excellent analysis BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #84

You probably wouldn't want to live in my head. Funny thing is I'm a pretty positive person that TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #87

This is an excellent, excellent post. woo me with science Jul 2014 #107

Well said... sendero Jul 2014 #121

Good post Doctor_J Jul 2014 #157

Recommended for the truth. Depressing as all hell Autumn Jul 2014 #64

There is much people power running under these dinosaurs. Read Gar Alperovitz' "Beyond Capitalism." ancianita Jul 2014 #68

way too many are hoping a political party will reverse the trend. KG Jul 2014 #70

It can reversed only one way. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #74

You're a little late to the party postatomic Jul 2014 #75

actually not. I'm quite familiar with the above and I've read quite a bit on the subject cali Jul 2014 #77

People need to start marching but Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2014 #76

There have been many Science Fiction Movies and books devoted to this subject yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #79

Perhaps a few generations of real suffering will be good for the American soul nikto Jul 2014 #80

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #83

Corporate America wanted Barack Obama as president? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #91

They're quite happy with him as president Armstead Jul 2014 #94

they hedge their bets. this is hardly breaking news. cali Jul 2014 #103

Your feigned incredulity doesn't work anymore. woo me with science Jul 2014 #110

Has having him in the White House pre-empted their takeover in any way? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #160

Soft fascism has long arrived. We are just late to see all the effects. morningfog Jul 2014 #92

One of my brothers is the polar opposite of me in all things political. We totally disagree about Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #93

The USA is now DOA lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #95

When we see a corporation invade DC you can worry. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #96

they don't need to invade. they were invited in. cali Jul 2014 #100

Surely you jest. They own DC. woo me with science Jul 2014 #111

oh ok everyone go back to sleep. bobduca Jul 2014 #135

Someone got it. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #140

Same. That's why I'm giving less of a shit every year that goes by LittleBlue Jul 2014 #97

We're heading down a path that won't end pretty and clean ... Kennah Jul 2014 #99

No, really? joshcryer Jul 2014 #101

Every oppressive system in history has eventually ended. redgreenandblue Jul 2014 #112

It's the Golden Rule: "Whoever has the gold makes the rules". riqster Jul 2014 #123

Of course it's reversible. It's just a matter of will to do it. Javaman Jul 2014 #124

So what are the options RadicalGeek Jul 2014 #126

It's very burnt on the edges but it is far from done. raouldukelives Jul 2014 #127

as do I. and the supreme court is already the way people claim it will get m-lekktor Jul 2014 #128

I agree. The great American exercise in democracy is over. We have to admit sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #130

What doom and gloom in this thread and it's not realistic OKNancy Jul 2014 #132

not realistic? fail. it's all too realistic and it's reflected in SCOTUS decision after cali Jul 2014 #153

meet you back here in a few years OKNancy Jul 2014 #162

I have to agree. And as hard as it is we just keep on going BootinUp Jul 2014 #159

reality? on DU OKNancy Jul 2014 #163

And I liked Dennis too. BootinUp Jul 2014 #164

Yup I like Elizabeth Warren too. OKNancy Jul 2014 #165

Likewise and I'll elaborate a little BootinUp Jul 2014 #166

Invest in torches and pitchforks sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #133

I was told about 10 years ago by an employer... Rider3 Jul 2014 #136

IMO only a Howard Zinn method will have a chance of undoing this. L0oniX Jul 2014 #137

If you don't pay they just take it and take more all you can do is drop out altogether TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #186

Sometimes I wonder if that "Business Plot" to overthrow FDR actually succeeded. Initech Jul 2014 #139

The plotters had kids. Octafish Jul 2014 #142

The control started at the local level Sunlei Jul 2014 #143

It may look hopeless, but it is just the dark before the dawn. We will most definitely turn this DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #144

America died in 2000 AlbertCat Jul 2014 #145

She's just mostly dead BootinUp Jul 2014 #161

America will change but I'm afraid it will be like the change in the Mid East ,violently . geretogo Jul 2014 #147

The corporate takeover of this nation was a done deal when the nation began RainDog Jul 2014 #148

Agreed. Lock, stock and barrel. nt Doremus Jul 2014 #149

I've been telling everyone that we're all fucked as long as I've been here MrScorpio Jul 2014 #150

Unfortunately, cali get the red out Jul 2014 #155

Look at the laws passed and court decisions since 2000. Doctor_J Jul 2014 #156

And as laws will now comport to the CEO's "religious beliefs," we have to ask... blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #169

Not polynomial Jul 2014 #170

You have painted a pretty good picture of things imho. nt BootinUp Jul 2014 #174

Maybe And That's Sad colsohlibgal Jul 2014 #175

Last names trocar Jul 2014 #176

I am going to go way out on a limb here....... maindawg Jul 2014 #177

I agree but I think it's still reversable if ... Auggie Jul 2014 #182

Happy 150th BelgianMadCow Jul 2014 #184