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43. Rear facing is safer for infants in a crash

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:40 PM

Jul 2014

since they really don't have muscle control. A 22 month
should be too long for rear facing. I figure he just didn't
want to see the child's face in the rear view mirror, or when
he turned his head.

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Car Seat Dad to wife: "I dreaded how he'd look" (after death) [View all] bettyellen Jul 2014 OP

OMG get the red out Jul 2014 #1

I'm sure this info was posted here... Whiskeytide Jul 2014 #2

he researched "child free" living on Reddit. And sent penis pics all day to teenage girls. bettyellen Jul 2014 #3

Sickening cwydro Jul 2014 #46

I think the day care center was at another Home Depot, not the one where his office was..nt Princess Turandot Jul 2014 #4

same complex, different building TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #5

He was in IT, and he didn't realize that they'd scour his internet history? Orrex Jul 2014 #7

He did a lot of stupid things TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #9

All true, of course. Orrex Jul 2014 #15

I think she just said she did the same searches to give him cover TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #20

Must've been unwanted by both from the start. Or else a case of "buyer's remorse." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #94

the baby was planned TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #103

Yeesh, that just makes the whole thing even uglier (if possible). nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #106

I agree. cwydro Jul 2014 #47

He doesn't look too bright. cwydro Jul 2014 #52

Yep MoonRiver Jul 2014 #58

It seems like with all he did he was practically begging to get caught TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #73

yes , this is what i think happened, he never thought the cops would investigate further JI7 Jul 2014 #112

The stupid ones are most often those who end up incarcerated or institutionalized. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #95

glad he didnt realize it.he might have gotten away with it Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #11

The report only said... Whiskeytide Jul 2014 #27

The car seat is a big clue hugo_from_TN Jul 2014 #8

omg Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #10

unfucking believable. for once, I think a jury will get the circumstantial evidence thing bettyellen Jul 2014 #55

apparently, front or rear facing car seat has to do with TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #17

He had outgrown that car seat, but they got it just a few weeks before the murder.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #25

The advantage of rear-facing car seats has been well established. . . markpkessinger Jul 2014 #26

+1 nt Tree-Hugger Jul 2014 #31

^^This laundry_queen Jul 2014 #100

"to not be able to see what the child is doing in the car seat" winter is coming Jul 2014 #35

they really should make it a law that if you use a rear facing car seat TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #67

'Your Catjesty', here. Also, Prince of Darkness (the black one). Shrike47 Jul 2014 #83

Rear facing is safer for infants in a crash woodsprite Jul 2014 #43

Oh, horrible thought TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #68

It's safer to rear-face as long as possible Swtmnkyluvin Jul 2014 #28

+1 Tree-Hugger Jul 2014 #32

they say they had another seat- but changed it a few weeks ago, to one not suitable for his weight. bettyellen Jul 2014 #39

thanks for the info TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #40

There are mirrors you can suction to your back window so you can see your child. winter is coming Jul 2014 #53

Safety-wise kids should rear face as long as they can. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #89

since you didn't provide a link... TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #6

Thanks! There was nothing out when I posted. Except tweets, and I am not a tweeter! Now we know bettyellen Jul 2014 #13

worse than I ever suspected TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #18

he watched a video of how horrible it quickly gets inside the hot car. What a piece of shit. bettyellen Jul 2014 #19

OMG! So he definitely knew how torturous it was going to be TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #21

yes, I was wrong when I said before he probably never considered it at all. bettyellen Jul 2014 #22

whoa, I didn't hear that TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #78

he did some sort of double take or get between them thing at lunch time. but it was his own words- bettyellen Jul 2014 #91

There is a really cold part of me Tree-Hugger Jul 2014 #37

Ok, I admit to thinking the same thing TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #76

Oh, I'm a lot colder than that. winter is coming Jul 2014 #105

And cwydro Jul 2014 #49

The insurance policies are really not evidence, but te other stuff is. alphafemale Jul 2014 #66

Knowing what I know now, yes, I can imagine it. Like something out of a horror story. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #97

jjeezzuss h. christ. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #98

it didn't add up to much TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #75

but if they were struggling with bills (trying to buy another house I heard) and paying out a bettyellen Jul 2014 #92

That poor little guy deutsey Jul 2014 #90

Awwww...Poor fellow. He haz a sad. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #12

Childfree is "never had one, never will" not "had one and murdered him" REP Jul 2014 #14

I'm happily child free and love my friends' kids. Is there some sort of hostile group on reddit.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #16

My experience of "childfree" groups is not "hostility" as such Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #23

I can understand how women might need a support group for that- the pressure to reproduce bettyellen Jul 2014 #63

I always knew I didn't want kids either TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #104

Exactly right. Nor do we "encourage" childlessness; we support others who are Childfree REP Jul 2014 #64

And he was sexting six different women (including minors) on that day...BARF anneboleyn Jul 2014 #24

I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but they did have $28,000 in insurance on the child. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #29

Here is a link that discusses the life insurance policies on the poor kid uppityperson Jul 2014 #41

There's so much more to this case than we now know. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #44

and it gets even WORSE! TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #30

Leanna chewed gum the whole time, then called the judge an S.O.B. for denying bail! MoonRiver Jul 2014 #33

now I do think she was in on it TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #36

She looked rediculous get the red out Jul 2014 #38

Is there a link to that? cwydro Jul 2014 #50

Just look at the pictures of her in court. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #51

Thanks, I'll try to find it cwydro Jul 2014 #54

there's a video of part of the hearing on HLN TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #79

Holy cow! TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #70

Painful to digest all of this. What time did she attempt to pick him up ecstatic Jul 2014 #56

She immediately said husband "must have left him in the car" and others were taken aback by this... bettyellen Jul 2014 #57

from what was said about her during the hearing I'm now convinced TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #69

from the hearing... TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #34

Yes, I heard that. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #45

I doubt it TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #77

Everybody starts by pleading not guilty. ( Well, almost always. This can get very complicated.) Shrike47 Jul 2014 #85

she will be investigated and likely pressured into giving him up for a lesser plea. bettyellen Jul 2014 #88

How old are these rotten parents? SoCalDem Jul 2014 #42

They are early 30's. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #48

The baby was as cute as can be. LisaL Jul 2014 #62

They had fertility problems so the child was very much produced on purpose. LisaL Jul 2014 #61

maybe they lied about that too- sociopaths are always BSing people for $$ or love bettyellen Jul 2014 #65

I agree. They also tend to lie even when the truth would better serve them. laundry_queen Jul 2014 #101

Yeah, they lie for the hell of it. Because they enjoy getting over on people. bettyellen Jul 2014 #108

I knew a man like this once. He told me he pretty much believed he could winter is coming Jul 2014 #109

Insurance money malaise Jul 2014 #72

Wonder how his employer feels cwydro Jul 2014 #59

What a rotten piece of shit he is. nt City Lights Jul 2014 #60

i wonder if there is a history with this couple JI7 Jul 2014 #71

sociopaths are great at making themselves look like they have a conscience, and at manipulating bettyellen Jul 2014 #74

Aunt Peggy and cousin Maggy? TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #81

I believe that was a reference to manipulate relatives; not people you should know. winter is coming Jul 2014 #82

LOL. Exactly. Two dead eyed sharks in womens' clothing. bettyellen Jul 2014 #87

It's who I haven' t been missing, for many happy years- my Aunt Peggy and her daughter Maggie. LOL bettyellen Jul 2014 #86

HA! laundry_queen Jul 2014 #102

like he did when he called in to the child's funeral and people stood up and applauded him JI7 Jul 2014 #107

yeah, they are not interested in any scenario that doesn't benefit them.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #111

Jusrt heard on the radio that these people had Booster Jul 2014 #80

It appears they are murderers, and clumsy, stupid ones at that. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #84

It's like Fargo meets Raising Arizona. But sadder. bettyellen Jul 2014 #96

I'm opposed to the death penalty XemaSab Jul 2014 #93

It's incidents like this that make me think about "eye for an eye." joshcryer Jul 2014 #99

I keep trying to make excuses to myself that point to this being a polly7 Jul 2014 #110