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BrotherIvan

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89. Why would a person need a gun on them at all times?

Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:14 AM

Jul 2014

Do they believe the world is really so dangerous? And much like stand your ground, it prevents them from making smart decisions in terms of safety. The last person I want around me with a gun is someone so paranoid they think they need a gun.

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An interesting way to deal with open carry laws: [View all] avebury Jul 2014 OP

Now way are we hanging around if some asshole walks in with a gun, no way, AND, RKP5637 Jul 2014 #1

truly great idea thank you! ALBliberal Jul 2014 #2

appropriate samsingh Jul 2014 #3

So an 'open carry asshole' and a 'stand your ground asshole' walk into a grocery store NightWatcher Jul 2014 #4

that scenario ... napkinz Jul 2014 #10

I would leave first IronLionZion Jul 2014 #11

That is what I would do. Lugnut Jul 2014 #13

This. quakerboy Jul 2014 #29

After leaving, I will inform the management. By phone. nt Bigmack Jul 2014 #72

This advice has been around for a while.... Turbineguy Jul 2014 #5

I taught that for 20 years! :-) WinkyDink Jul 2014 #82

Memories! ChazInAz Jul 2014 #123

Do it. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #83

It is also important to know what the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms rules are in avebury Jul 2014 #6

Chuck E Cheese is a dangerous place. Those bears are real creepy. alfredo Jul 2014 #116

leave . . . but let someone in management know WHY you are leaving DrDan Jul 2014 #7

This - and followup with a letter Retrograde Jul 2014 #24

agree - definitely make it clear why you left and will not return DrDan Jul 2014 #37

I view leaving the business under these circumstance avebury Jul 2014 #136

Agree so the management needs to know why they are losing business DrDan Jul 2014 #138

I live in a state with pretty strict gun control laws. (New York) The_Commonist Jul 2014 #8

What are the legal repercussions? BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #9

Manager was a moron. dilby Jul 2014 #12

Unfortunately, that's what I thought BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #15

The proper method is to notify the manager that you are uncomfortable. dilby Jul 2014 #19

Yes BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #21

I plan to start yelling Gun, Gun, Gun as loud as I can and asking for the manager...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #33

It's prudent BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #41

I see your point, but that will only cause panic among everyone else. davidpdx Jul 2014 #59

So what is wrong with screaming fire in a theater A Simple Game Jul 2014 #111

That's *falsely* yelling fire marybourg Jul 2014 #126

"I can assure you that based on those facts you would never be in any trouble with the police." SCUBANOW Jul 2014 #97

Yell Gun!, then run out in a crouched position. alfredo Jul 2014 #112

Seems like that is a different discussion other than open carry laws... User_Friendly Jul 2014 #91

For the time being, perhaps skepticscott Jul 2014 #131

Such BS. They can only charge you with a crime if you commit one - if your intent is to prevent jtuck004 Jul 2014 #31

Failing to pay for food you ate is a crime. dilby Jul 2014 #38

It's not an unfounded fear to be afraid of a gun BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #40

Being afraid of guns makes you kind of unstable and paranoid. dilby Jul 2014 #42

Not afraid of guns - HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN MOST PEOPLE WHO CARRY THEM - jtuck004 Jul 2014 #46

But you just proved my point BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #47

I have one rule about guns. tonybgood Jul 2014 #54

There's nothing unstable or paranoid about it. Paladin Jul 2014 #100

...kinda like people who feel the need to carry guns in public. lastlib Jul 2014 #101

I came from a relatively gun free society. mwooldri Jul 2014 #108

So how many mass shootings need to occur before it isn't paranoia? A Simple Game Jul 2014 #120

No, your racism is not the same as concern for individual safety. But feel free jtuck004 Jul 2014 #45

I have learned that for a gunner, "criminal" means dark person BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #51

So if a racist sees a black person and assumes criminal. dilby Jul 2014 #58

The idea that people are shot and killed by guns is by no means illogical. BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #68

It's just as illogical as people are robbed by blacks. dilby Jul 2014 #69

Look at the photo in response #60 of the two guys with rifles BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #73

Have you ever heard anyone ever being accidentally robbed? Accidentally mugged? Accidentally Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #128

The chances of getting killed by gun shot go down.... daleanime Jul 2014 #130

I don't mind guns. I mind people who must use them as an extension of their personality. jtuck004 Jul 2014 #88

Why would a person need a gun on them at all times? BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #89

If you need a gun, you need to have it with you. That said, it's just one of many tools,the jtuck004 Jul 2014 #90

How is it racist? Because I used the word black? dilby Jul 2014 #55

Big difference, Dilby. First, you make a choice to strap on a gun, and a bad choice at that. Hoyt Jul 2014 #57

Don't own a gun and have no interest in purchasing one. dilby Jul 2014 #61

Gunner logic: billh58 Jul 2014 #79

It's demonstrably true that gun controllers try to tie RKBA to racism, bigotry, and misogyny.... NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #146

What if it were several poisonous snakes instead of a little spider? Bandit Jul 2014 #110

Black skin is not lethal, a loaded glock is. alfredo Jul 2014 #114

Not really. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #66

I'd suggest he send the bill to the guy with the gun. lastlib Jul 2014 #99

Who would be under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to pay it. IronGate Jul 2014 #102

not a good manager Skittles Jul 2014 #75

I wish you were there BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #76

Legally you're acting in self defense. You'd been presented with an imminent danger valerief Jul 2014 #106

It probably depends on the state BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #137

Ah, yes, being a PoC adds a wrinkle in those KKK states. And I agree with you about the valerief Jul 2014 #152

Always good to read your posts, Brother :) davidthegnome Jul 2014 #122

I'm glad you're ok! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #135

every person with a gun is a threat and should be treated as such nt msongs Jul 2014 #14

Absolute agreement BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #18

How to tell the difference between an open-carry patriot and a deranged killer Electric Monk Jul 2014 #23

To an extent, I already do that. Iggo Jul 2014 #16

Now that we've banned open carry in California Mr.Bill Jul 2014 #17

How about if I just do what I normally do? aikoaiko Jul 2014 #20

You're outrageous sarisataka Jul 2014 #27

Yeah I am in the same boat. dilby Jul 2014 #28

You don't get it. It's not the gun so much as it is the yahoo who'd strap one on and walk into a Hoyt Jul 2014 #60

Look where the guy's finger is on the right BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #70

Okay, just go to another store, Bro. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #85

What do you bet that neither of these losers ever get laid? kimbutgar Jul 2014 #132

Everybody needs love, even if cold steel and ammo. Hoyt Jul 2014 #156

It just doesn't seem the same kimbutgar Jul 2014 #157

You feel comfortable around guns. Some have a history with gun violence and... Tikki Jul 2014 #62

My, god! You don't mean that! The horror. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #84

Future OP: Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #93

Another anti-gunner fantasizing about pro-rkba types getting shot. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #115

Nope. Just pointing out that there are some valid reasons Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #141

It may also be a good idea to write letters to the editor in those cities and areas No Vested Interest Jul 2014 #22

I like walking out AND calling the police. Make as much noise as possible. rickyhall Jul 2014 #25

The police open carry, ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #30

The police are trained and accountable Retrograde Jul 2014 #44

They are trained, but they are less accountable than others. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #48

They will get tired of it for sure and probably ask you to stop calling them. dilby Jul 2014 #32

A private business can certainly put a stop to it, IronGate Jul 2014 #34

Sure there is something the police can do, they can verify the intentions of the armed person. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2014 #121

In some states, if the person is not presenting a threat, IronGate Jul 2014 #125

If they can pull me over and say they did so because they thought I had a bald tire A Simple Game Jul 2014 #142

Here. IronGate Jul 2014 #143

Poor examples. A Simple Game Jul 2014 #145

They will get tired of that sarisataka Jul 2014 #35

Always call when you reach a safe distance. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #26

Has there ever been a massacre by the open carry crowd? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #36

Jus how you propose identifying an open carry gun avebury Jul 2014 #39

I dont agree with your logic. People with guns via open carry are trying to make a statement rhett o rick Jul 2014 #113

Having been hit by a bullet fragment Oldtimeralso Jul 2014 #43

Not a bad idea. Business owners who allow guns, have to provide a "no gun" zone. Hoyt Jul 2014 #64

With you completely. lupinella Jul 2014 #87

It's real simple... derby378 Jul 2014 #49

"Without devolving into a nation of whiners." This isn't whining. We've all heard enough about Squinch Jul 2014 #56

"WHINERS"????? That's one helluva term to use in a nation of GUN-NUTS who WHINE all the time WinkyDink Jul 2014 #94

Pity the poor store clerks.. When someone comes in with a gun, SoCalDem Jul 2014 #50

Exactly BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #139

Ignore it and it will go away MosheFeingold Jul 2014 #52

"these guys just want attention"---No offense (I'm a proud daughter of a WWII vet), but we live in WinkyDink Jul 2014 #95

Sounds good, but Zimmerman was "a watcher for some non-existent foe" truebluegreen Jul 2014 #98

+1000. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #151

I love this but I would make a suggestion: I would not be able to sleep at night if I left without Squinch Jul 2014 #53

This ^^^. I'd immediately walk out telling the host/hostess to box my food, and bring me the bill riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #74

No it wouldn't. They have to LOSE money to make any changes. nt valerief Jul 2014 #105

I think it depends on the situation and where I am davidpdx Jul 2014 #63

Excellent idea. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #65

If you already got a haircut, or some other service, Jenoch Jul 2014 #67

I refuse to spend my tourist dollars in a state that has "open carry". Xolodno Jul 2014 #71

Colorado is an open carry state. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #77

Doh!!!! Xolodno Jul 2014 #80

Very few states ban open carry. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #103

I know an acquaintance who is a 69 year old woman onecent Jul 2014 #78

Why should I let some asshole ruin my dinner? hunter Jul 2014 #81

I prefer a bolo knife: dig holes, cut bamboo, cut arms Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #86

This is decidedly brilliant. joshcryer Jul 2014 #92

Frankly, I would be so shocked I think I'd scream, "GUN! HE'S GOT A GUN!!" Not joking. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #96

Absolutely. That's the only way to deal with business owners who allow open carry. nt valerief Jul 2014 #104

Excellent idea. n/t CanonRay Jul 2014 #107

The next guy here in Texas I see with a gun Gman Jul 2014 #109

Hmmm.....6'2" and 215 vs. a bullet. Yep, you're toast. BIG toast, but toast. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #117

What's he gonna do? Shoot me because I embarrassed him? Gman Jul 2014 #153

Asked and answered! WinkyDink Jul 2014 #154

So you are in favor sarisataka Jul 2014 #140

That just ain't gonna happen Gman Jul 2014 #144

Back in the real world sarisataka Jul 2014 #147

Just because it's a woman in the stupid open carry bunch Gman Jul 2014 #149

pretty much my default quaker bill Jul 2014 #118

YES!!! DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #119

I agree. catrose Jul 2014 #124

Leave, but BE SURE to tell management why Auggie Jul 2014 #127

I live in Arizona. I've done this already. marybourg Jul 2014 #129

I've been saying this from Day One of this idiocy. A guy walks in with a gun, and I leave... Hekate Jul 2014 #133

Culture war. krispos42 Jul 2014 #134

I suspect this will happen naturally anyway Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #148

K&R! n/t billh58 Jul 2014 #150

If I were the manager Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2014 #155