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53. There is NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS on GMO safety

Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:42 PM

Jul 2014

The latest GMO corporate propaganda point is that GMO opponents are stupid, and equivalent to climate change deniers. They paid big money to develop that phony wedge argument. But it is complete bullshit, even though it is echoed on DU over and over and over.

Here (below) is just one of many groups of scientists making the point that you ought not to trust corporate claims of GMO safety. You can find many other legitimate, independent science groups if you search online. No doubt corporate shills -- and their overpaid corporate "scientist" lackeys -- will jump right in to try and denigrate these independent scientists. Expect fog. Expect lies. Expect calumny. Expect deceit. The GMO corps have a long, sordid history of it -- and they are not stopping now.

They are making too much money lying about GMOs.

But your health -- and the health of your family -- is too important to just ASSUME THE POSITION and accept the corporate lies because it seems easier that way.

No scientific consensus on safety of genetically modified organisms
Oct 21, 2013

There is no scientific consensus on the safety of genetically modified foods and crops, according to a statement released today by an international group of more than 90 scientists, academics and physicians.

The statement comes in response to recent claims from the GM industry and some scientists, journalists, and commentators that there is a "scientific consensus" that GM foods and crops were generally found safe for human and animal health and the environment. The statement calls these claims "misleading", adding, "This claimed consensus on GMO safety does not exist."

"Such claims may place human and environmental health at undue risk and create an atmosphere of complacency," states Dr. Angelika Hilbeck, chairperson of the European Network of Scientists for Social and Environmental Responsibility (ENSSER)...

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-scientific-consensus-safety-genetically.html

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Hillary Clinton GOES TO BAT For GMOs At Biotech Conference [View all] Segami Jul 2014 OP

A lot of my DU friends strongly support HRC, but I cannot accept her past choices. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #1

She probably did as much research as she did with her IWR vote. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #2

She can learn, evolve .... FarPoint Jul 2014 #6

Uh, huh... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #8

Just wait until his next term. Then you're going to see liberalism! Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #23

He's only been President 6 and a half years!!!! morningfog Jul 2014 #60

She already has learned and evolved arikara Jul 2014 #9

Ahem... ReRe Jul 2014 #11

I don't think so. 840high Jul 2014 #24

Well, she has evolved from being dead broke to millionaire by entertaining the corporations. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #39

If she's the nominee in 2016, what will you do? George II Jul 2014 #40

Ask me when she's the nominee, for now I'll fight her tooth and nail. nt NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #48

It was an "IF" question, not a "WHEN" question. George II Jul 2014 #52

IF she is the nominee.... NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #58

. George II Jul 2014 #64

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #123

Go and have waffles on voting day. Then go home. Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #91

H. Clinton has made it clear that she is the corporate choice for the Democratic nomination. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #3

I can live a much better life with Hilary FarPoint Jul 2014 #49

You are lucky. But that kind of thinking will continue to see the lower classes decline. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #62

I have to say, I'm a bit confused by Ms. Paul's statement customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #4

anti-GMO'ers are the left's climate change deniers. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #15

That's the claim the GMO corporate pimps like to denigrate us with Crowquette Jul 2014 #27

It's a fact, though wyldwolf Jul 2014 #28

Put your faith in Monsanto, Sygenta and their ilk - they control the "science" you swallow Crowquette Jul 2014 #38

Show me proof they control WHO.. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #41

why would anyone give your opinion on this any weight when you don't even know the cali Jul 2014 #118

"Who gives a shit... that doesn't matter... you don't need people's opinion on a fact" wyldwolf Jul 2014 #119

EXCITING NEW PRESS RELEASE - "Republication of the S�ralini study: Science speaks for itself" proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #54

It was retracted last year because it was fatally flawed wyldwolf Jul 2014 #57

Dr Arpad Pusztai endorses GMWATCH.org so I follow & trust their vetting by virtue of his life story. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #67

Climate change deniers cling to a very small amount ... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #69

No parallel, no MSM support anywhere. Imagine witnessing this whirlwind as a scientist or living it. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #74

There's no MSM parallel because it isn't hot button issue wyldwolf Jul 2014 #77

monsanto science is anti science wisechoice Jul 2014 #93

WHO, AMA, The Royal Academy of Medicine, European Commission, etc. are not working Monsanto wyldwolf Jul 2014 #95

Platitudes don't cut it though they sell stuff. Nuanced, but demonstrably and irrefutably wrong x5. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #97

but apparently conspiracy theories based on non-science do cut it here. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #98

Bookmarking for that letter BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #105

It's ALREADY been proven that gmo's are safe. alp227 Jul 2014 #108

and here is another wyldwolf Jul 2014 #114

No, Gung Ho GMOers are the left's Climate Change Deniers.. if you want to bring in Climate Change. Cha Jul 2014 #80

so let me get this straight - make sure I'm understanding you wyldwolf Jul 2014 #82

So? Science says GMO makes frankenfood and is full of Scientific Poison not Good for the Environment Cha Jul 2014 #83

yes, the few "scientists" who use faulty research DO say that wyldwolf Jul 2014 #84

that's because redruddyred Jul 2014 #26

And I favor full labeling customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #116

the activists that claim all the resistance to such is because monsanto has something to hide. redruddyred Jul 2014 #117

'more careful application'.... heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #50

My neighbor is too lazy to pull weeds and he sprays that crap. nilesobek Jul 2014 #61

If money matters, anyone can be a corporate shill and still tell you otherwise. Always watch roguevalley Jul 2014 #5

HRC: Blue Dog, Corporate ConservaDem, War Hawk, Triangulation/Bi-partisanship, DLC/Third Way, finger blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #7

ouch!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #56

I see a huge fight in the making - the Corporatist Dems - whose lives have truedelphi Jul 2014 #10

Spot on. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #51

stop the truth stuff!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #59

Democrats - the pro-science party? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #12

I see your corporate meme, and raise you one from human beings, not corporate citizens Crowquette Jul 2014 #30

Similar to how the Fox News crowd shuts down climate change arguments wyldwolf Jul 2014 #33

That's not true globally. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #43

It's absolutely true globally wyldwolf Jul 2014 #46

NEW: Study suggests potential association between "soy formula" and seizures in children with autism proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #75

You just made a big leap wyldwolf Jul 2014 #79

Embedded link I included states 90% of US soy is GMO but, of course, actual verification needed. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #92

"actual verification needed" if those who believed in such woo-hoo would actually live by that. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #96

The problem isn't the GMOs, it's the gradual monopolizing of the food supply. arcane1 Jul 2014 #31

That's a much more sensible approach wyldwolf Jul 2014 #36

Oh, it's both. Where are the long term animal feeding studies demonstrating safety? proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #45

They probably were done some or even many but when the test data dosn't come out like they wanted nolabels Jul 2014 #70

That's exactly what it should be about. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #72

That'd be my assessment, also. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #89

Reading your post wants to have me truedelphi Jul 2014 #99

do you have any proof WHO, AAAS, AMA, National Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Medicine.... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #102

Again, the taint of corporate monies can be smelled truedelphi Jul 2014 #103

Oh, "the taint of corporate monies can be smelled." (snicker) wyldwolf Jul 2014 #104

If USA Corproate-backed science is all that science-ey, then truedelphi Jul 2014 #106

You have proof a us corp. is backing world science, right? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #107

Well, for starters, answer me this: truedelphi Jul 2014 #111

so you avoid the question and instead give more conspiracy speculation and anecdotes. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #113

at this point, what else is there than common sense when people hopemountain Jul 2014 #120

" at this point, what else is there than common sense?" Science wyldwolf Jul 2014 #121

really? are you so naive? hopemountain Jul 2014 #122

Prove it. And then answer - are you a climate change denier, too? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #124

Nice graphic Segami. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #13

HRC? A GMO apologist?? Color me shocked!! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #14

Figures ReRe Jul 2014 #16

Thanks, Hillary. bvar22 Jul 2014 #17

Silly rabbit! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #21

If anyone tells you GMOs are drought resistant or higher yield BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #18

Thanks for speaking truth. "drought resistance" is a standard lie of GMO propaganda pimps !!! Crowquette Jul 2014 #100

Good. Nothing wrong with GM foods (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #19

with this post and the responses heaven05 Jul 2014 #20

Yep, let's all hope Nader runs again skepticscott Jul 2014 #25

yeah, i hear you heaven05 Jul 2014 #55

THIS ^^^^^^^^^EPIPHANY MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #81

And yet... proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #22

big pharma is extremely sketch redruddyred Jul 2014 #29

Food can't do everything, obviously, and many drugs are life saving. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #35

unfortunately, what with hmos and such, there have been a number of bad incentives in medicine redruddyred Jul 2014 #65

walked by a drug store this morning and looking in the front door the first thing you see is Pepsi KurtNYC Jul 2014 #32

The Bees and I Cartoonist Jul 2014 #34

There are usually a lot of other races going on at the same time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #44

My Blue Heaven Cartoonist Jul 2014 #68

Ah, nice, I'm in the opposite. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #71

I used to live in a red zone Cartoonist Jul 2014 #76

No doubt, Hillary is so impressed with GMO foods, and their benefits, she backs lableling them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #37

One possible quibble - Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #42

Started with Negroponte from what I've read. (nt) proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #47

There is NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS on GMO safety Crowquette Jul 2014 #53

Do these scientists have any credibility? alp227 Jul 2014 #109

Yes, indeed. Major credibility. Crowquette Jul 2014 #110

No they don't. Have they ever done research in the relevant field? alp227 Jul 2014 #112

The logic I use to determine if the GMOs are bad for me: nilesobek Jul 2014 #63

This the same logic I use malokvale77 Jul 2014 #73

Overall, science usually wins over hysteria and flat earth belief. nilesobek Jul 2014 #101

Of course she does. If she is the nominee, we are toast. nt silvershadow Jul 2014 #66

When I saw the article a few days back about Warren campaigning for Grimes, I wondered winter is coming Jul 2014 #78

I know.. EW was doing something Productive! However, "GMO.. No One is Perfect Not Even Elizabeth Cha Jul 2014 #85

That's not good. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #86

F*****g disgustin' Armstead Jul 2014 #88

Hell, she and Bill have been in bed with Monsanto for years Armstead Jul 2014 #87

Oh well. GMOs are at the bottom of shit I care about. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #90

Of course she did Faux pas Jul 2014 #94

GMO OMG Trailer from Omaha Steve.. Good.. Coming September 13th.. Cha Jul 2014 #115