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Showing Original Post only (View all)Judge says man who raped sleeping woman is not a “classic rapist,” just “lost control” [View all]
A British man was just sentenced to five years in prison for raping an unconscious woman. According to a report from the Hull Daily Mail, it took the jury just over two hours to unanimously conclude that Lee Setford was guilty of raping a woman who was asleep on his couch. But heres what the judge told him upon sentencing, I do not regard you as a classic rapist. I do not think you are a general danger to strangers. You are not the type who goes searching for a woman to rape.
This was a case where you just lost control of normal restraint, Judge Michael Mettyear continued in his assessment of Setford. She was a pretty girl who you fancied. You simply could not resist. You had sex with her.
Not a classic rapist. Simply could not resist. Not a danger. This is everything that is wrong with how we view and talk about rape, and this is hardly an isolated incident. There are scripts that most people assume all rapes should follow, and roles that rapists and victims are both expected to play. The persistence of these myths about who counts as a classic rapist and who makes for a good victim is astonishing considering how much we know about perpetrators of sexual violence, particularly in the United States.
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And this erasure has consequences. Its what allows ignorant people like George Will to pretend that most sexual assaults are just ambiguities of the hookup culture. Its what allows politicians and law enforcement to ignore the experiences of survivors on college campuses, in the military, in prisons and every other place where sexual violence occurs. (Which is everywhere.) It dismisses the women and men who told their assailants no, but were ignored. The wives who told their husbands no, but were ignored. The sexual assaults that dont involve a weapon, but instead feature much more insidious forms of coercion. This is what sexual violence really looks like, but these arent the stories we tell ourselves about sexual violence.
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http://www.salon.com/2014/07/03/judge_says_man_who_raped_sleeping_woman_is_not_a_classic_rapist_just_lost_control/
This was a case where you just lost control of normal restraint, Judge Michael Mettyear continued in his assessment of Setford. She was a pretty girl who you fancied. You simply could not resist. You had sex with her.
Not a classic rapist. Simply could not resist. Not a danger. This is everything that is wrong with how we view and talk about rape, and this is hardly an isolated incident. There are scripts that most people assume all rapes should follow, and roles that rapists and victims are both expected to play. The persistence of these myths about who counts as a classic rapist and who makes for a good victim is astonishing considering how much we know about perpetrators of sexual violence, particularly in the United States.
...
And this erasure has consequences. Its what allows ignorant people like George Will to pretend that most sexual assaults are just ambiguities of the hookup culture. Its what allows politicians and law enforcement to ignore the experiences of survivors on college campuses, in the military, in prisons and every other place where sexual violence occurs. (Which is everywhere.) It dismisses the women and men who told their assailants no, but were ignored. The wives who told their husbands no, but were ignored. The sexual assaults that dont involve a weapon, but instead feature much more insidious forms of coercion. This is what sexual violence really looks like, but these arent the stories we tell ourselves about sexual violence.
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http://www.salon.com/2014/07/03/judge_says_man_who_raped_sleeping_woman_is_not_a_classic_rapist_just_lost_control/
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Judge says man who raped sleeping woman is not a “classic rapist,” just “lost control” [View all]
redqueen
Jul 2014
OP
That pretty much sums it up! It is stunning that in the 21st century women are still
RKP5637
Jul 2014
#29
The rapists who, when they rape, misogynists label it "legitimate" or "forcible" rape. nt
redqueen
Jul 2014
#10
THIS is what women mean when they talk about "rape culture" guys, in case you didn't get it.
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#9
some guys here have expressed the thought it's "people who like rape" - so it doesn't exist, LOL.
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#31
Nope- they think it's "rah rah rape" instead of hey look- she's asleep/ drunk/
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#56
Imagine it was a murder case instead. Would "classic murder" and "lost control of normal restraint"
tclambert
Jul 2014
#17
So the judge believes men are wild animals with no reasoning capacity? Rather low standards, there.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#18
That Judge should be unbenched (?) and lose his law license. The end.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2014
#20
Classic rapist, Free-Form Jazz rapist, Alt-Country Indie rapist...STILL A RAPIST!
Throd
Jul 2014
#21
Independence Day should mean being free from idiot judges like this in England
kairos12
Jul 2014
#24
How'd Judge Mettyear feel if his daughter or a loved one is just too much for someone to resist!
Tikki
Jul 2014
#37
As I said upthread, how would he feel if HE, HIMSELF is just too much for someone to resist?
MadrasT
Jul 2014
#63
Yeah, she was sure asking for it in her sleep. Snoring is just soooo sexxay, would make anyone...
moriah
Jul 2014
#47
You are half correct, you mean nations where laws are there to protect women then one stupid judge
snooper2
Jul 2014
#59
We have judges doing the same fucking thing in the USA, in case you hadn't heard
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#60
0 rapes reported in Pakistan this past year! Yeah super quotable asshole judges
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#68