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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why you'll never hear this Feminist use the word "Mansplain"... [View all]
http://www.xojane.com/issues/why-you-ll-never-hear-me-use-term-mansplainMansplaining -- for which I will cease using scare quotes forthwith -- is an internet-born term for what happens when a dude comes into a conversation, usually online, usually happening between a group of women, and proceeds to commandeer the discussion to explain to said women things that they already know. The concept seems to have originated with Rebecca Solnits 2008 article in the Los Angeles Times, Men who explain things to me, in which she recounts an experience at a dinner party where a male guest repeatedly spoke over her to extol the virtues of a very important book on a particular subject, unaware, in spite of Solnits attempts to tell him otherwise, that it was a book of which she was the author.
While the early concept of men who explain things may have come from Rebecca Solnit, the precise origins of mansplain-as-portmanteau are a murky subject. I took to Twitter to crowdsource the first use and while we couldnt quite arrive at a definitive moment, the term seems to have come into common use amongst internet feminists around 2010, with much of its momentum coming from this post on ScienceBlogs. By this point, the definition had been expanded a bit:
Mansplaining is when a dude tells you, a woman, how to do something you already know how to do, or how you are wrong about something you are actually right about, or miscellaneous and inaccurate facts about something you know a hell of a lot more about than he does.
Bonus points if he is explaining how you are wrong about something being sexist!
I hate the word mansplain. Ive never liked it; I didnt like it even when it was gaily burning through feminist conversations like a cleansing fire lighting up all the annoying crap guys say and do when they feel threatened by feminism, or by feminists. A guy has injected himself into your conversation to tell you why youre all being unreasonable? MANSPLAINER! It was funny, and empowering, a self-aware scarlet M applied to anyone who failed to choose his words with care.
For one, its mad essentialist, and by this I mean it assumes a certain universal set of truths shared by all men. Men mansplain, because they are men, and this is an attribute of a masculine gender. Except there are lots of men who dont mansplain, and who would rightly be a little irritated by the assumption that something in their chromosomes or genitalia or gender identity somehow operates to make them all susceptible to a particular shared behavior.
The truth is anyone, regardless of gender, can be guilty of this incredibly annoying, frustrating, and dismissive conduct. While its certainly powered by sexism, men are not its sole proprietors -- have you heard some of the arguments Ive gotten from women on stuff relating to body image, about which I evidently know absolutely nothing of merit despite making it my primary field of work for well over a decade? -- and its no more acceptable if its coming from a non-man.
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I hadn't read reply #1 before composing my other reply (#6), but that's a perfect example.
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#12
It is a gendered behavior. Men do it to women all the damn time. Women don't do it to men or women,
LeftyMom
Jul 2014
#51
I'm not fully understanding can you explain it with a little more detail please!
snooper2
Jul 2014
#211
She was only "shown the door" as far as this thread goes, not all of DU, for having a post hidden.nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#157
LOL - she's probably better off, since this is just a flamebait thread anyway.
cyberswede
Jul 2014
#158
I'll stop saying it when men stop talking down to me about things I know more about than them.
LeftyMom
Jul 2014
#2
Thanks for telling me what it's like to be female. You're right, I have no idea how men talk to me.
LeftyMom
Jul 2014
#8
Are you antagonized because I posted a feminist saying she never uses the term "mansplaining"?
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#21
Your MO is to stir shit with women generally and feminists in particular. What's in that for you?
LeftyMom
Jul 2014
#26
Your argument about how having a word for the way men talk down to women is unhelpful,
LeftyMom
Jul 2014
#48
good to know that one is jury proof because we all know about this one ...
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2014
#162
What utter nonsense. Since when are men portrayed as ditzy blondes in the media.
R B Garr
Jul 2014
#195
"Will in no way compare." ok. Here's Jeff Daniels in Dumb & Dumber, anyway. YMMV
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#196
I don't how many times men have lectured me about feminism without knowing the basic history
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#59
Many times I've seen it used on DU it as basically trying to invalidate some guys opinion
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#6
maybe next time go to the link source, and you would have seen this article was written by a woman..
quinnox
Jul 2014
#32
I'd say so. But at least it is novel to see someone proudly proclaim they voted to hide a post, lol
quinnox
Jul 2014
#42
"Not trying to be insulting.... but it is what it is." Well, unfortunately, you kinda failed there.
AverageJoe90
Jul 2014
#198
So we now have a couple of great new terms that, in effect, turn normal but "bad" human behavior
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#105
I think gaslighting originally could be applied to either gender, though, IIRC.
AverageJoe90
Jul 2014
#116
Gaslight is an excellent movie, redqueen. Have you seen it? There are two versions.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2014
#156
Do I enjoy discussing different opinions and issues on subjects on a discussion board?
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#79
LOL, no I am posting an opinion about sexism written by a feminist that I agree with.
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#87
What a shame that you can no longer participate in this thread for having a post hidden 5-2. nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#86
Like I said, it was written by a Feminist. So it is not me "mansplaining" anything.
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#98
Better than organizing against Hobby Lobby. Gotta keep things in perspective, Bravenak!
freshwest
Jul 2014
#134
Thanks for posting this. Very good article.....even if it *is* just a tad dated. =)
AverageJoe90
Jul 2014
#107
and it's quite futting the actor who played Cliff Clavin is a right wing asshole.
alp227
Jul 2014
#187
When you observe that man explaining more to women and less to guys, that's how.
Gormy Cuss
Jul 2014
#206
To each there own, though I agree with some points expressed lets just say I personally feel
AuntPatsy
Jul 2014
#153
Only slightly relieved to hear that... Not like those memes haven't been around elsewhere... TY.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#229