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In reply to the discussion: So realistically, what should be done about all of these kids [View all]Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)53. I get so tired of people acting like history happened in a vacuum.
It was only three years ago that that left-wing rag, the NYtimes, explained what we'd done in just Guatemala. I haven't even brought up Honduras yet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/opinion/04schlesinger.html?_r=0
IN 1954, the American government committed one of the most reprehensible acts in its history when it authorized the C.I.A. to overthrow the democratically elected leader of Guatemala, President Jacobo Arbenz. It did so secretly but later rationalized the coup on the ground that the country was about to fall into communist hands.
Guatemalan society has only recently recovered from the suffering that this intervention caused, including brutal military dictatorships and a genocidal civil war against its Indian population, which led to the deaths of an estimated 200,000 people. Only in the 1980s, when a peace process commenced, did democratic governance resume. But a silence about the Arbenz era continued.
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The covert American assault destroyed any possibility that Guatemalas fragile political and civic institutions might grow. It permanently stunted political life. And the destruction of Guatemalas democracy also set back the cause of free elections in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Honduras all of which drew the lesson that Washington was more interested in unquestioning allies than democratic ones. It was only after the cold war and a United Nations-negotiated peace deal with leftist guerrillas in 1996 that genuine democracy began to take hold in Guatemala. And even since then, the cycle of violence and lawlessness unleashed by the 1954 coup has continued.
In 1998, an assassin bludgeoned to death the Catholic bishop Juan Gerardi shortly after he issued a damning report blaming the army for widespread massacres. In 2007, Guatemala had the worlds third-highest homicide rate, according to a United Nations-World Bank study. In 2009, more civilians were murdered in Guatemala than were killed in the war zones of Iraq.
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I wonder how many people on this thread whining about taking care of 58,000 chiidren eat Chiquita bananas without wondering how they got here?
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They should stay. We would have plenty of money if we don't start the war again in Iraq.
mucifer
Jul 2014
#3
How about passing the Senate passed immigration bill? Blame the GOP, not children, surprisingly to
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#15
That's right. They should not be treated as undocumented immigrants and deported,
Louisiana1976
Jul 2014
#59
They should be processed according to law and they are. Now the GOP wants to change the law, at
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#74
How much $ did US interests make by propping up the Guatemalan dictator, Ríos Montt?
Starry Messenger
Jul 2014
#11
Yes. the US has a responsibility to these kids because it has intervened politically
Louisiana1976
Jul 2014
#14
It isn't that simple. Do we all of a sudden find teachers to hire, more classrooms somewhere?
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#37
Well, America has found ways to absorb Puritans, Slaves, the Irish, Italians, Jews, etc...
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2014
#32
IKR? Do we build orphanages? Do we fast-track foster care/adoptions? School systems are for sure
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#34
I recommend that a list of children be sent to Latino networks in LA, NYC and other areas.
ancianita
Jul 2014
#45
Umm.....I'm not sure what you mean by "normative". Could you explain, please? nt
AverageJoe90
Jul 2014
#58
It was empty snark. A "what should be done" question is asking for "normative" responses.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#73