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In reply to the discussion: Seen on Facebook; An extraordinarily well written response to an anti-choice post [View all]The_Commonist
(2,518 posts)...does not surprise me coming from someone who says that a fetus is a "PARASITE."
And now that I see it, your other response to me above.
My goodness. Such anger!
I suppose it's the anger of thousands of years of oppression, but you're taking it out on the wrong person here.
And I think you've missed the point. So let's try a little thought experiment:
You and I have sex. (stranger things have happened! but of course, all of my sexual partners over the years have been "liberal feminists," so it probably wouldn't be a strange situation at all.) You get pregnant. (despite the fact that I have had a vasectomy. because for the most part, I am a "liberal feminist," and at a fairly young age (26) I decided that it was not right to leave all the birth control decisions to the women.)
Now what? You want to abort the parasite, I want to raise the child. Who wins, and why?
My point here, all along, was that I don't think it's right to simply be told to STFU, that I have no say in what happens to my genetic material. If my views of life, its sanctity, when it begins and ends, are different than yours in this situation, so be it. I suppose I'll have to deal with that. And frankly, I don't even have a dog in this fight, unlike (from the sound of it) the fella who started this whole subthread. (that poor sucker. people really need to learn when to keep their mouths shut around here.)
But I know that, because of those thousands of years of oppression, that you don't want to be told to STFU any more. And rightly so. And now you're going to turn around and do the same thing? The oppressed becomes the oppressor? How old is that story? Isn't there another story we can enact here? Isn't there a "third way" or we can "think outside the box" or some other cliche like that? Can we get past the hyperbole, and discuss things like reasonable people, who just shared that beautiful moment of orgasmic ecstasy together?
So yes, I do think there's an honest discussion to be had here. Because we're human beings. We can discuss things. Some people are cavemen, and some aren't. You're talking to me like I'm a caveman. I'm not. I'm a highly evolved individual, and I'm sure you are too. This thread is filled with people who should be highly evolved individuals yelling at each other like cavemen. It's really pretty gross. This discussion forum is infected with "liberals" and "feminists" who should behave like the highly evolved individuals that they are, rather than yelling at each other like cavemen. It's really kind of distressing, and it's getting rather boring.