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57. I resided in Utah when Rocky was mayor

Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:22 AM

Dec 2011

I remember him protesting against little boot's iraq war plans. He fully supported the protesters. I admire the guy, he's a workaholic; however, the timing is not right. I think if you're going to promote a new party from the ground, it will take some time.

approximately one hundred years ago, both parties were in bed together and people became disgusted with the corruption. California and wisconsin, both, led in the progressive movement, especially in labor and education. What a strong third party can do is change the direction of one of the established parties.

I admire Rocky-like I said he is a workaholic and he has chutzpah. why doesn't he run as a democrat? Well, if you're a progressive, you may not get that DNC support, especially from the third way democrats. However, it would be nice if he did challenge as a democrat and help change the direction of the party.

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Former Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson running for President. A progressive alternative to Obama [View all] Better Believe It Dec 2011 OP

Better think twice. I think Rocky Anderson is a pal of Mitt Romney. limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #1

They sure aren't "pals" anymore! Read what Anderson had to say about Romney in the interview. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #3

I'm still not buying that. It seems really fishy to me. nt limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #11

If this idiot managed to siphon off enough votes, combined with vote theft, voter suppression, MADem Dec 2011 #48

Rocky Anderson is not an idiot. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #67

+1 at the very least. nt ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #92

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2011 #114

Will his old boss Mitt give him the "Token Dem" slot in the Cabinet, I wonder? nt MADem Dec 2011 #143

Tell him to run for Congress or Senate or State legislator Maraya1969 Dec 2011 #182

You really don't have any idea who Rocky Anderson is or his politican standing is Javaman Dec 2011 #87

In my personal view, he's not the brightest bulb if he is running a third party MADem Dec 2011 #106

Speaking of dim bulbs...nwat ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #110

Do elucidate--don't be vague, now. NT MADem Dec 2011 #141

I'm sure he realizes the long odds. But he is used to defying the odds. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #121

so in other words, you know nothing about him. Javaman Dec 2011 #134

And so, instead of assisting in my understanding, you instead choose to snark. MADem Dec 2011 #142

So instead of doing it yourself you get mad at me. LOL Javaman Dec 2011 #164

You're the one who's telling me I need a lesson, yet not giving it. MADem Dec 2011 #165

And now you resort to the Peewee Herman defense! Javaman Dec 2011 #166

Naaah. You may think you're being cute, but you're not. MADem Dec 2011 #167

I have never in my entire life seen someone turn a mole hill into a mountain. Javaman Dec 2011 #170

Javaman, you have one of those nice days, OK? MADem Dec 2011 #171

you just can't let it go... Javaman Dec 2011 #173

Ciao, Javaman! MADem Dec 2011 #176

Interesting. There will be a well funded 3rd party candidate to run to Obama's left. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #4

On what basis do you see this campaign as "well funded"? brooklynite Dec 2011 #34

Not saying it is...just saying there will be one . Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #35

he might even get kkkarl rove money. try to spilt dem vote leftyohiolib Dec 2011 #91

Citizen's United aka "Corporations are People, too!" Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #94

I am quite sure the Koch brothers will pony up some donations for the "progressive" candidate! whistler162 Dec 2011 #180

It would be interesting to see if any of the money Anderson raises is from Romney donors karynnj Dec 2011 #46

- a bunch...nt ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #66

Why? ProSense Dec 2011 #2

I opposed anyone running a primary campaign against Obama. Did you conveniently forget that? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #6

How ProSense Dec 2011 #13

November 8, 2011 Better Believe It: "I actually don't favor a primary campaign" against Obama. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #20

I'm sure an apology will be forth-coming! sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #120

So conveniently bookmarked. Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #181

Confucius say, the mutterings ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #69

the feature is available now magical thyme Dec 2011 #62

Being able to see the edit history is badass isn't it BBI snooper2 Dec 2011 #82

Any vote that does not help defeat the conservatives is a mistake Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #5

Great. No voter contact plan with national scope eridani Dec 2011 #7

Couldn't agree more. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #19

You honestly don't think if a third party candidate beat an incumbent President that nothing would A Simple Game Dec 2011 #123

Yes, nothing would change. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #135

I will still maintain that if Anderson could beat President Obama A Simple Game Dec 2011 #149

As I said, you can believe anything you want. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #152

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #179

The notion that a 3rd party candidate could beat an incumbent without -- eridani Dec 2011 #146

Just five words for you. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #147

If you don't want to win, why run? eridani Dec 2011 #148

I'm sure he does want to win. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #150

You don't think OWS would get behind his candidacy? NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #83

I'm thinking that they are totally blowing off electoral politics for the time being n/t eridani Dec 2011 #86

Is he a Democrat? Is so, why isn't running a primary challenge? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #8

He answers your question in the articles. Read them. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #9

Is he a Democrat? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #16

He is a former Democrat but has now joined the newly formed Justice Party Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #18

How mnay states has the Justice Party attained the qualifications to Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #26

I am not sure, they just announced the formation of the party last week so they may not be on any. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #29

They won't be able to get on CA's ballot. joshcryer Dec 2011 #38

The California Peace and Freedom Party could vote to put Anderson as their candidate on the ballot. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #90

Perhaps not. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #64

Darcy Richardson is running a primary campaign. mmonk Dec 2011 #15

Nope...tiny odds on the Rock....unknown and tiny $$ ain't shit in this Realm of the Oval... opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #10

He's a shoe-in. Scurrilous Dec 2011 #12

He's eschewin' reality. great white snark Dec 2011 #43

Cool! I'll remember the name ... T S Justly Dec 2011 #14

Seems like a good choice for 2016 if he re-registers as a democrat. nt bluestate10 Dec 2011 #17

Why the Anderson campaign for President will not be like Nader's campaign in 2000. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #21

Ever wonder why they only poll Congress as if it were a monolythic body? Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #22

Actually, that is only one way they poll Congress. aquart Dec 2011 #27

True, but it's the only polling that seems to get discussed in the mainstream media. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #28

That's hilarious ProSense Dec 2011 #23

Hilarious? NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #84

I resided in Utah when Rocky was mayor newspeak Dec 2011 #57

A mormon running against a mormon for president? alittlelark Dec 2011 #24

I wouldn't call Rocky Anderson a Mormon FreeState Dec 2011 #37

I was wondering... CanSocDem Dec 2011 #168

Here's an idea ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2011 #25

That's too much work. Independent progressives want a political messiah to fix everything. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #31

So you think Rocky Anderson would be "a weaker version" of the Great Compromiser President Obama? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #41

Silly question. Follow the Messiah - he'll lead you to the Promised Land! Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #96

We tried Obama. How has that worked out for ya? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #100

Silly question. Follow the Messiah - he'll lead you to the Promised Land! Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #104

Stealing phrases from Sarah Palin doesn't help your case, also too. Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #124

"Stealing phrases from Sarah Palin doesn't help your case, also too." Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #161

+1 for this^ Ineeda Dec 2011 #109

Besides the Democrats and GOPers there are FOURTEEN other folks running Tx4obama Dec 2011 #30

I think running for POTUS might be the new financial con. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #32

Correct, I hope DU doesn't get caught up in Anderson hysteria... joshcryer Dec 2011 #39

Personally, I'm pretty concerned about klook Dec 2011 #79

Ron Paul has a better chance of being elected President than this guy Hugabear Dec 2011 #33

The last Anderson who ran as a progressive third party candidate helped get us Reagan RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2011 #36

I will never forget it Irishonly Dec 2011 #55

Is this a suicide by cop thread? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #40

He's got as many ex-wives as Newt Gingrich Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #42

Do you have any evidence he "cheated" on his two ex-wives? Links please. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #49

actually his marriages probably ended in divorce newspeak Dec 2011 #58

He couldn't handle marriage and he couldn't handle working to change the Democratic party Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #63

Keep ProSense Dec 2011 #44

I wish I could rec this. I think Clinton's re-elect numbers were about 20 pts. lower. (nt) Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #162

unrecc spanone Dec 2011 #45

Sounds like a great guy! He should run for Senate agentS Dec 2011 #47

Yeah! vote for Rocky and let a republican win WI_DEM Dec 2011 #50

Mr. Anderson, Ralph Nader on line 2...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #51

he worked with Romney in the 2002 Winter Olympics bigtree Dec 2011 #52

of course he worked with romney newspeak Dec 2011 #60

What would a REAL Democrat have said? dems_rightnow Dec 2011 #145

I had dealings with this guy when he was Mayor of Salt Lake CanonRay Dec 2011 #53

I had a feeling that was what it was. BlueToTheBone Dec 2011 #56

Excellent Republican strategy JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #54

Some front group funded by the Kochs and/or Rove's anonymous donors emulatorloo Dec 2011 #136

Good. Having choices is what democracy is about. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #59

Actually, making choices collectively is what Democracy is all about. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #71

Which means that more choices are a plus. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #81

DU is about electing Democrats. nt sufrommich Dec 2011 #131

I'm beginning to think that there are a lot of EC Dec 2011 #61

Justice Party ecoalex2 Dec 2011 #65

Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between George Bush and Al Gore... greenman3610 Dec 2011 #68

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2011 #76

He's running with the "Throw your vote right in the Trashcan" Party. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #70

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #72

Fuck Hr 676. Fuck EFCA 2.0 but some will get their self-righteous buzz on anyway & lie down with patrice Dec 2011 #73

And if you think I can't back that up with empirical support, you're wrong. patrice Dec 2011 #74

I have followed Rocky for a long time. ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #89

I thought you weren't coming to the new DU? ecstatic Dec 2011 #75

OP found out as long as he posts anti-material with a disclaimer at the bottom, he is within Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #77

You're now on ignore for personal attacks. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #85

Oh my stars and garters! Whatever shall I do? I...I feel faint! Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #99

merciful heavens! dionysus Dec 2011 #139

Pretty slick, huh? AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #88

(cough) Everything's getting so cold...(cough) so dark, so cold...(gasp).... Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #101

are you sure you'll be okay? you seem broken up about it.... dionysus Dec 2011 #140

+1...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #97

How convenient for the repugs siligut Dec 2011 #78

I'll vote for a Third Party candidate ... Martin Eden Dec 2011 #80

Not this silliness again. Obama approval was at 84% among Dems last week and it's going up. OregonBlue Dec 2011 #93

People who think a vote splitting third choice is a good idea should bet the rent money on it. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #95

Amen. But there is no maximum contribution. The Kochs could bankroll this guy 100%--- McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #98

Republicans and Wall Street could also give millions to Obama. They gave a lot to Kerry and Obama Better Believe It Dec 2011 #102

Anderson won't accept the maximum donation amount. Not even close. jtrockville Dec 2011 #108

Wait. You donated to someone running against... SidDithers Dec 2011 #126

I heard about that $100 maximum, now that you mention it. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #138

My input is that someone who makes repeated anti Obama posts and then puts grantcart Dec 2011 #103

I think that is a version of concern trolling. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #105

Is your comment directed at me or someone else? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #111

It's my charachterization of the repeated anti Obama posts that you make and then add some grantcart Dec 2011 #117

Your misrepresentation of my views may fit your Obama talking points nicely but I tell the truth. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #133

It's called a paraphrase Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #118

He should win because he puts his fist in the air frazzled Dec 2011 #107

I of course prefer someone who seems to be delivering a lecture to the uneducated masses. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #113

"I don't support Anderson's presidential campaign" ... dionysus Dec 2011 #112

Really, eh?... SidDithers Dec 2011 #127

why Sid, we should start a kickboxin' club. dionysus Dec 2011 #132

Very interesting idea. Turbineguy Dec 2011 #115

Fuck Rocky Anderson and Fuck the Justice Party WonderGrunion Dec 2011 #116

Oh great. Siphon off enough votes from Obama to a guy who seriously has no realistic chance against calimary Dec 2011 #119

REC. Excellent topic of discussion. nt bertman Dec 2011 #122

excellent indeed, especially if you want a GOP president, bert. or one embarrased rocky. dionysus Dec 2011 #129

He left office before I moved to Salt Lake LadyHawkAZ Dec 2011 #125

Why is this 3rd party shit allowed on DU3? sufrommich Dec 2011 #128

yeah, and strangely this type of bullshit is allowed to stand. dionysus Dec 2011 #130

Some posters seem to be bullet proof emulatorloo Dec 2011 #137

Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #163

We'll see if ToS volations are enforced come nomination time. joshcryer Dec 2011 #144

My prediction RZM Dec 2011 #151

I really don't see it, to be honest. joshcryer Dec 2011 #154

There's going to have to be a do or die moment in 2012 RZM Dec 2011 #155

Definitely going to be interesting. joshcryer Dec 2011 #156

You're right, assuming a constant 5 point lead RZM Dec 2011 #157

Isn't that a statement of principle within the ToS? That we're here to get Dems elected? MADem Dec 2011 #159

Disingenuous weasel-worded disclaimers REP Dec 2011 #153

Please share when you have further info. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #158

You SO obviously don't realize - Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #160

You've been here for a week, and you act like you've known BBI for years. MADem Dec 2011 #169

Long time lurker - Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #174

He has his own issues, and they're coming to the fore. MADem Dec 2011 #175

In response to your request for more information here's a link to his interview with Cenk Uygur Better Believe It Dec 2011 #172

That's more than sufficient. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #178

Personally, I would like to see a third party that would challenge the rightward drift paulk Dec 2011 #177