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Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
32. Couple of things...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jul 2014

Churches aren't exempt from payroll taxes. They pay those like any employer.

Clergy still get a "housing allowance" exemption that is antiquated -- and exempts a portion of their income from taxation -- and it needs to go. Nothing personal, clergy, but a job is a job is a job.

To calculate "income" for a church, it should be defined as net of all income (whether tax deductible or not) minus staff salaries, maintenance of the church's building and other expenses like utilities. Religious instruction and outreach DO NOT COUNT.

Since churches don't have shareholders, what's left are either religious instruction/outreach or services to the general community (food pantries and such) that DO NOT have any religious test or requirements in order to receive a benefit. If a church provides more community benefit than religious activity, then it has no tax liability. But to the extent that it has more religious activity than community benefit, it's going to pay taxes.

First in line for tax revenue should be local school districts that are getting stiffed on property taxes.

And as has been mentioned, churches are subject to ALL relevant requirements with regard to employers. If the churches don't like that, then they should get volunteers to do the job.

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I agree Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #1
Yep.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #2
With the HL ruling ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #3
It is way past time.. and if something good Peacetrain Jul 2014 #4
There was a huge megachurch here that bought a building for $45 million last year. Initech Jul 2014 #5
There is no rhyme or reason for that.. none Peacetrain Jul 2014 #7
Totally agree. Initech Jul 2014 #8
And it does not do the various faith bodies Peacetrain Jul 2014 #11
I do not support overseas missionary work that a lot of churches do. Lars39 Jul 2014 #6
If a sermon goes with it.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #9
Just a question. If you tax my church which I use my own money to support am I not being taxed jwirr Jul 2014 #10
Lets try it this way.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #12
That is clearer. Actually I am the worst person to ask this as my economic situation means I do not jwirr Jul 2014 #17
No one does anything to stop it because it happens in both parties. former9thward Jul 2014 #15
I had forgotten that. jwirr Jul 2014 #19
I'm finally there, Peacetrain. The wall of separation is broken... Hekate Jul 2014 #13
I am with you! Peacetrain Jul 2014 #16
I know several rw christians who agree. hughee99 Jul 2014 #14
Politics in the church has always been there.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #20
It's one thing to hear a preacher advocate for a candidate in the sermon, hughee99 Jul 2014 #22
Its a very difficult subject to bring up Peacetrain Jul 2014 #24
Someone here will flag this OP as being offensive. They flag most of mine. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #18
I hope not..because it is not an attack on any faith body..but a defense Peacetrain Jul 2014 #23
Most times when folks mention cutting off church exemptions, the fundies send them to jury. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #25
Yep - Democratic Undergrounds huge fundie population is a real threat to freedom of thought. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #26
Even bringing up valid religious topics, as discussed on college campuses, gets flagged as offensive TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #28
This website must look pretty differently to you than it does to me el_bryanto Jul 2014 #30
You'd be surprised how many of them go to jury, only to survive because there was nothing wrong. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #34
Exactly - at DU there's nothing wrong with broad-brush smears on religion el_bryanto Jul 2014 #35
The problem is the 1st Amendment Xithras Jul 2014 #21
This is my legal ignorance showing I am sure.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #27
How much do you honestly think this matters? Indydem Jul 2014 #33
Can't disagree with that whatthehey Jul 2014 #29
And not unless they comply with all labor laws... Orsino Jul 2014 #31
Couple of things... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #32
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