you kind of have to ask yourself - "whose side is Obama on?"

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32. OMG! 19 corporations on the board! How come the board isn't made up completely of unions?

Except that unions have to make their bargains with corporations and not each other, or their members. In other words, this is a dance with the devil, just like in the rest of world outside D. C..

If my union had a way of employing all of us without negotiating with management to get me higher wages, more benefits and everything else on my laundry list, I'd be rich and famous right now.

I am among the most anti-corporate posters on this site. The world I want would be full of community owned cooperatives. Some people are doing it on the local level now, or they are helping workers to buy back manufacturing facilities. That way they can ensure the community makes decisions about what is the most important to them. It's a way of not allowing a group of sociopaths to steal their living out from under them from afar.

Until we get that way nationally, we'll have to keep on dancing with the devil. Spitting in the face of these people is non-productive in negotiations, just like this. We have to save that until we're free of their grasp, if it seems important enough.

Obama is simply dealing with what is in our face now, and not what he may be angling for in the future. And I don't care for people bashing Pelosi either. She's the favorite whipping post of the right wing boards.

The hatred for her is due to her not impeaching Bush, but there weren't enough votes. Instead, the Democrats pursued things that were badly needed. The Tea Party was created to stop the daily investigations and putting on the record the crimes of the Bush Administration.

You can make a great media scoop with impeachment, or lay the groundwork for stopping what a generation of Republican abuse in this country has done to us. What Bush, Inc. did were war crimes according to the standards. The desire to punish when the Democrats held majority was heartfelt but not fully thought out. It requires an occupation overthrowing a government by a foreign army to try a president for war crimes.

I was so agonized by what was going on in the Bush years, I wanted anything to end the war. All we could do was to oust his group, but they kept on coming. They always do, they have the money and took over the House in 2010.

This isn't over by a long shot, let's stop shooting each other, is all I'd like to say. n/t