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119. Yes, valid in the context of their experience. This is true for every human everywhere.

Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:11 AM

Jul 2014

How this is not understood is beyond me.

We don't know them, but maybe the American was raised in a home with nothing but fervent believers in (fill in blanks), maybe she was abused, maybe there were drugs and alcohol being used by those around her. For her experience, her view is valid.

Maybe the other woman lost parents to violence and has known nothing but the horrors of war and intolerance. She, too, is a product of these things and her view is valid.

No different from many progressives, some of whom could be called "fundamentalist" or "extremist" in their POV.

In these rare cases, their experiences teach them that all religions are evil, that all drugs are good, all police are bad, all guns are bad and....

....and that anyone who disagrees with them are deserving of mocking and bigotry. "Y'all Kada".

You call that tolerant and progressive?

From the many cultural anthropology courses I've taken, I'd call it "ethnocentrism", and it's perfectly normal, but it's not very enlightened or advanced.

Have a nice life.

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Their view is just as valid as yours or mine. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #118

Yes, valid in the context of their experience. This is true for every human everywhere. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #119

How this is not understood is beyond me. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #120

Flag? Check. Bible? Check. Gun? Check. Terra Alta Jul 2014 #60

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #61

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Untreated mental illness... fried eggs Jul 2014 #63

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