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bettyellen

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310. we both know there is no actual agreement on what hosts are *supposed* to do

Wed Jul 9, 2014, 05:25 PM

Jul 2014

as far as meta, consensus- and that one "stong leave" bullshit, grave dancing and extreme racism and sexism- you can't pretend there ever was full agreement on any of those things. Never has been. Many host think it is wrong to leave up "All women should be raped" because in doing so you are stretching the SOP to the very limit. It's not an issue or event, but some would have left it- and THAT sucks.

It is unfortunate that such confusion gives cover to those who vote very inconsistently, but it serves to right now. If some hosts didn't openly disparage alerters in the hosts forum- we might not KNOW what they are doing- which is voting to favor people they like, and against people they dislike. It's happened, and it will continue to happen, unless we have greater transparency, and real consequences.

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Somewhere a bridge has gained its Troll back. [View all] Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 OP

lol treestar Jul 2014 #1

This has been a LONG time coming. myrna minx Jul 2014 #2

Long time, before the dawn... Archae Jul 2014 #15

Is the troll "Still" "Nashing" his teeth? riqster Jul 2014 #50

Nope, they're too ... wait for it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #184

I'm feeling a sense of ...D�j� Vu. riqster Jul 2014 #215

Can I tell it like it is? Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #242

Probably keep us both alive. riqster Jul 2014 #260

Oh wow! look.... A HERETIC I AM Jul 2014 #417

So "Carry On" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #252

Through winding paths through tables and glass. riqster Jul 2014 #262

Whoa! Must've been a great show. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #407

OMFG, yes. riqster Jul 2014 #495

Then be still, young'un. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #294

Aw shucks, don't be cross, be riqster Jul 2014 #392

Ha, at first I thought Jefferson Airplane :) Babel_17 Jul 2014 #270

His own fault. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #3

Not according to him. It was everyone else's fault. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #19

Well Earlg let him know it was him lol. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #20

Justice! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #4

Me too! Squinch Jul 2014 #445

One of DU's most sucsessful trolls. sufrommich Jul 2014 #5

Dude was the "Harold Stassen" of DU trolls! bullwinkle428 Jul 2014 #6

I googled it....still don't get the reference. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2014 #48

Perennial Candidate billh58 Jul 2014 #70

The guy who couldn't stop running for President. calimary Jul 2014 #133

Stassen would probably be a Democrat today. Jenoch Jul 2014 #114

I'm confused - been here since 2002, over 20,000 posts - and IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #7

I'll join you in confusion. enlightenment Jul 2014 #12

I will join you PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #13

I think it was locking his own thread against host consensus BainsBane Jul 2014 #18

they were constantly "gaming" the system posting insults then editing and self deleting bettyellen Jul 2014 #21

Someone sent me the threads. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #43

I think Earl G and the majority of feminists here got it right- he was a deliberate shit stirrer who bettyellen Jul 2014 #61

Bettyellen has it exactly right. He was very clever in putting a toe over the line and then MADem Jul 2014 #185

Well said Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #409

How is whether you personally know who WCGreen is relevant? BainsBane Jul 2014 #62

The post I was replying to stated he had insulted WCGreen. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #99

It appears the administrators disagree with your assessment BainsBane Jul 2014 #107

nonsense, many people asked him diplomatically to delete or apologize. you may never have seen it, bettyellen Jul 2014 #128

this wasn't the fault of "offended feminists". it was his own. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #63

Ah, passive aggressive insults, aimed my way. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #118

really?? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #126

He also had a long history of disruptive .sig lines that Admin removed REP Jul 2014 #406

Well then he called you and people like you "hysterical" BainsBane Jul 2014 #231

a conflict of values- not personalities. but progressive values "annoy" quite a few here. bettyellen Jul 2014 #241

This message was self-deleted by its author ellenrr Jul 2014 #487

Be sure to tell EarlG that... Phentex Jul 2014 #69

I have to laugh at peope who actually think any group has the sufrommich Jul 2014 #74

Agreed. That troll made their own bed. FSogol Jul 2014 #81

I believe at some point the admins will ban *anyone* who becomes IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #127

I agree. They are very tolerant... Phentex Jul 2014 #139

"In fact, I think I will head to "Ask the Admins" to suggest it" kcr Jul 2014 #338

this post really did make me chuckle out loud. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #665

If you read both the self-deleted Hobby Lobby thread and the self-locked shaving thread Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #80

See one of my other replies dealing with my paraphrase of someone else's post. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #130

mercury blues wrote it succinctly uppityperson Jul 2014 #175

so you think racists should be allowed and it's up to other members to just ignore if they are JI7 Jul 2014 #238

sexists also, if I recall correctly. bettyellen Jul 2014 #246

Oooh! Oooh! I know the answer to this one!!! IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #264

That OP instructing people how to trash threads was a thinly veiled swipe at the Hobby Lobby ruling cyberswede Jul 2014 #272

It happens sometimes (me being wrong) - lol! IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #288

'Trolling' is not always aimed at the people with whom you're directly interacting. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #359

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #369

Oh good Gods. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #373

and a few hosts convinced the lot that there is nothing they can do- every other forum's hosts bettyellen Jul 2014 #383

"libertarian"? BainsBane Jul 2014 #454

True itsrobert Jul 2014 #498

it really took that host's blatant admission of discrimination + the silly "one strong leave" crap bettyellen Jul 2014 #510

Hi, itsrobert. Sissyk Jul 2014 #527

Please don't read into things that are not there. Sissyk Jul 2014 #526

What exactly is your point regarding this op? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #497

that hosts have become convinced that the SOP means nothing at all by a few hosts that bettyellen Jul 2014 #509

I'm like Warren (don't pass out Warren). Sissyk Jul 2014 #514

And your proof of this is this post Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #517

Here is the host thread on that. Autumn Jul 2014 #518

Thank for posting maddezmom Jul 2014 #520

I would rather call them lies and half truths to meet an agenda, the host who posted Autumn Jul 2014 #524

Thank you, Autumn. Sissyk Jul 2014 #521

Wait! Do you mean to say host didn't vote to leave that thread and anyone saying they did ... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #522

Looks that way to me. Funny how she ignored that thread. Autumn Jul 2014 #534

There isn't any discussion of locking the thread that I see BainsBane Jul 2014 #523

There was no discussion because a jury hid it before anyone could post on it. maddezmom Jul 2014 #525

Okay. Understood. Thanks. BainsBane Jul 2014 #533

That's the entire thread, ask your buddy. She can see it There is no discussion on locking it, Autumn Jul 2014 #529

which buddy is that? BainsBane Jul 2014 #532

You are so cute when you act all innocent . Autumn Jul 2014 #536

Actually I'm wondering what you are thinking BainsBane Jul 2014 #537

I'm thinking you are playing with words. So you go have a nice day. Autumn Jul 2014 #539

I'm thinking I've just witnessed a performance BainsBane Jul 2014 #540

Probably true, because of the lack of transparency in the host forum people maddezmom Jul 2014 #543

See you get it. Non GD host telling lies and stirring crap. Autumn Jul 2014 #545

No, you don't get it BainsBane Jul 2014 #550

I'm not hosting right now, I'm not MIRTing right now. I'm just a DUer Autumn Jul 2014 #555

Your profile clearly says you are hosting BainsBane Jul 2014 #611

You are also on MIRT BainsBane Jul 2014 #618

Oh dear Autumn Jul 2014 #552

Congratulations? Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #561

It wasn't my alert so you will have to find someone else to congratulate. Autumn Jul 2014 #626

I'm not a GD host. Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #631

You are a host with access to the host forum and you could have easily known how that alert went. Autumn Jul 2014 #633

I haven't followed this Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #637

it will take a few days for this to all settle down, a lot of angry things were posted Autumn Jul 2014 #639

Geez, this post seems very, very petty... Spazito Jul 2014 #562

As opposed to the Grave Dancing Thread with over 500 posts. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #563

The grave-dancing of a long standing troll is well deserved... Spazito Jul 2014 #565

mmm hmm. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #567

A current member with 5 recent hides whose posting privileges have been revoked. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #606

A time-out is vastly different than the banning of a troll.... Spazito Jul 2014 #608

what she did was not objectionable CreekDog Jul 2014 #641

Now that is a topic for another thread. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #643

There is no decent rationalization for grave dancing. It's right off the junior high schoolyard. n rhett o rick Jul 2014 #654

I beg to differ, sometimes grave dancing threads are quite rational when... Spazito Jul 2014 #655

It's mob behavior and it's beneath liberal Democrats. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #656

lol, nice try... Spazito Jul 2014 #657

No, THIS behavior is beneath Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #658

Dealing with SOP alerts based on who one likes or doesn't like is also beneath liberal Democrats BainsBane Jul 2014 #660

So your rationalization is that bullying and mob rule is justified if it's for a righteous cause. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #663

Um, the salem witch trials were just actions? boston bean Jul 2014 #664

It's you that has it backwards. You are not the victim. You were not harassed by a gang of people, rhett o rick Jul 2014 #666

Who harassed who? boston bean Jul 2014 #667

If rules are broken there are procedures that can be followed. It shouldn't be necessary rhett o rick Jul 2014 #669

Not saying anything in the correct forum, where you know, we discuss this stuff boston bean Jul 2014 #672

You seem to forget we've read the threads from the hosts forum BainsBane Jul 2014 #678

And you continue to trash hosts. Seems to me that if you can't convince hosts to do rhett o rick Jul 2014 #683

Wow Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #684

What bidding? BainsBane Jul 2014 #686

The "ugliness" quinnox received was entirely of his own making. cyberswede Jul 2014 #668

There would have been a lot less ugliness if he would have been dealt with appropriately. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #670

What do you mean "dealt with appropriately?" cyberswede Jul 2014 #671

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jul 2014 #673

I will take you at your word that you want to discuss this sincerely. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #679

Thanks... cyberswede Jul 2014 #680

Thanks for the decent discussion. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #681

Indeed. But then we have no control over what goes on in the hosts forum BainsBane Jul 2014 #676

Where did I say that? BainsBane Jul 2014 #675

Again, your analogy BainsBane Jul 2014 #677

This is what's petty Spazito, a host saying things about hosts that are not true. Autumn Jul 2014 #568

So, let me see if I have this correct.... Spazito Jul 2014 #570

"a host whose perception was in question" opiate69 Jul 2014 #576

Unlike the post I found petty, I didn't feel the need to pile on... Spazito Jul 2014 #581

Right now I'm not hosting, I'm just a DUer. Autumn Jul 2014 #589

Actually, yes, it was celebrating.... Spazito Jul 2014 #604

Actually, I wanted her to explain why she posted something about hosts Autumn Jul 2014 #634

Had that been your intent, one would have thought you would have posted that instead of... Spazito Jul 2014 #640

Why do you continue to falsely claim you are not a host BainsBane Jul 2014 #649

WTF? You're listed as a host of GD and have been for two months. How are you "not hosting"? n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #635

I'm participating in a thread, hosts can do that. Autumn Jul 2014 #638

Not just everyone posts threads about the host forum BainsBane Jul 2014 #650

You are hosting six groups and you are on MIRT BainsBane Jul 2014 #648

That shit has been going on for several days now. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #616

Enjoy your "Schadenfreude", I hope it serves you well n/t Spazito Jul 2014 #619

Not going to answer the question about how you would feel if someone... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #620

I didn't answer your red herring 'question' because it didn't relate to the post to which you... Spazito Jul 2014 #621

We all saw the extensive threads she posted BainsBane Jul 2014 #651

Oh I see BainsBane Jul 2014 #609

Because thread was hidden in 18 minutes and before anyone commented. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #530

That is the entire whole thread. Sissyk Jul 2014 #531

I am just curious. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #572

I can not answer this of course for anyone but me, Sissyk Jul 2014 #574

How about: it's off topic for gd? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #579

Do you think DURHAM D Jul 2014 #582

I said clearly that I think the post would have been locked. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #583

Could you please provide links DURHAM D Jul 2014 #587

At your service. Here's a few. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #596

I realize the locking message says off-topic but DURHAM D Jul 2014 #602

believe whatever you want, you clearly have your mind made up. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #603

My mind made up about what? nt DURHAM D Jul 2014 #605

Well, I went back and looked. Sissyk Jul 2014 #622

If one host cheering on another's timeout doesn't show what a mess it is kcr Jul 2014 #584

I have not smeared bettyellen. Sissyk Jul 2014 #588

Can you point out where I accused you specifically? kcr Jul 2014 #590

No, you didn't accuse me specifically. Sissyk Jul 2014 #623

I thought so, too. kcr Jul 2014 #624

I am not cheering, I want her to explain exactly what she *thought* she meant. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #592

Well kudos to you for not cheering kcr Jul 2014 #595

If I outright lie about something, please let me know. I honestly try not to do that. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #597

I think most DUers try not to. kcr Jul 2014 #598

Correction: her account has been temporarily suspended. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #636

No host ignored it, it was hidden by a jury before a discussion could even occur maddezmom Jul 2014 #538

I think they use that term as a catch all for BainsBane Jul 2014 #410

Some of that host discussion was posted in my thread about swarms. BainsBane Jul 2014 #344

LOL Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #92

As a "non-offended feminist" (copyright pending - lol) -- IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #141

You said, " I'm not convinced he was the offending party." PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #142

I love that she defend's Q's right to offend and snark to the end, but yours, not so much. LOL. bettyellen Jul 2014 #146

We have different opinions. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #147

So you *will* catch shit, and rightfully so, for blaming his actions on others. Deal with it. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #149

Ah, someone who thinks they have a right to THROW SHIT because someone else IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #164

You just called her a stalker BainsBane Jul 2014 #455

I beg to differ HangOnKids Jul 2014 #564

thing is mercuryblues Jul 2014 #219

I saw where he said the "word" wcgreen (who I know nothing about). IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #268

so you mercuryblues Jul 2014 #301

Facts seem to be irrelevant here BainsBane Jul 2014 #456

The point is that when 'wcgreen' is a topic, it is in relation to his very serious health problems, LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #484

Exactly! In the past month, there were 3 OPs about WCGreen. 20+ for the word soccer... Phentex Jul 2014 #491

Heh. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #245

I love the ignore feature - it means I can't see these folks you refer to. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #285

So, Quinox's banning saddens and confuses you kcr Jul 2014 #342

I am one of the feminists on DU. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #489

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #494

I see why you're a published author BainsBane Jul 2014 #610

12 Years Ignored, the movie. betsuni Jul 2014 #501

LOL DURHAM D Jul 2014 #503

Wow. mercuryblues Jul 2014 #578

I still don't get it. Are Quinnox's and his supporters' alert buttons broken or something? kcr Jul 2014 #593

Isn't it mercuryblues Jul 2014 #661

I'm a feminist who doesn't get drawn into DU's flamefests or drama. Quinnox was unequivocally KittyWampus Jul 2014 #102

I would add my nagging suspicion ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #195

Good hair. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #388

What does IST stand for? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #627

The suffix. bravenak Jul 2014 #628

... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #629

thanx AngryAmish Jul 2014 #630

What's your handicap? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #632

"it's trolls like Quinnox who make DU suck, not those who stand up to jackasses like him" Number23 Jul 2014 #428

I actually DID have him on ignore, and STILL I couldn't escape his trolling, because it always Squinch Jul 2014 #447

Oh please. MadrasT Jul 2014 #104

it doesn't matter whether you know who someone is, just the fact that he brags and laughs about JI7 Jul 2014 #224

he has made a lot of ugly hateful commentss about African americans also, including negative JI7 Jul 2014 #226

Oh for fuck's sake. JTFrog Jul 2014 #296

I'm 110% percent with you on that. bettyellen Jul 2014 #321

Really. Unbelievable. Smh. mahalo JT Cha Jul 2014 #429

This message was self-deleted by its author Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #322

self deleted because life is too short for message board drama. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #331

Correction: that host put herself in it. She could have said no. BainsBane Jul 2014 #58

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #108

Laughing about WC Green's health problems? awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #427

I'm guessing that this was connected somehow to his GD hosting duties. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #22

He asked another host to lock his thread via pm. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #26

Interesting..... thanks (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #35

and after that he locked it himself BainsBane Jul 2014 #51

then he gracefully quit as GD host so he couldn't PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #60

OMG BainsBane Jul 2014 #65

There are gun trolls here and their gun sockpuppets deeply embedded. onehandle Jul 2014 #24

+100 billh58 Jul 2014 #72

I don't know the whole history, but he first came to my attention when R B Garr Jul 2014 #29

Usually his nonsense posts were connected to an earlier offense, a way of rubbing the salt in... bettyellen Jul 2014 #83

That was when I put him on ignore. greatlaurel Jul 2014 #98

I've been wondering what the purpose ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #197

Pretty slick, huh? He put a lot of thought into maximizing offence and minimizing blow back so that bettyellen Jul 2014 #199

He disgusted me with the ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #201

Okay, thanks for the info. He did seem to have an agenda R B Garr Jul 2014 #382

His posting habits were just as crappy as far back as you want to go. FSogol Jul 2014 #85

I'm sure you're right because he deteriorated from the time I noticed him R B Garr Jul 2014 #379

He always seemed to me to clearly be very politically conservative, too. Squinch Jul 2014 #448

he was, like that work camps thing JI7 Jul 2014 #481

I may be mistaken, but I think I originally Squinch Jul 2014 #490

There seems to be several like him itsrobert Jul 2014 #499

He caused major issues in the host forum yesterday. He locked his own thread without consensus. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #34

I don't know for sure but I think the admins look for overall patterns of disruption... Phentex Jul 2014 #39

apparently he needed a new hobby hfojvt Jul 2014 #42

I've been watching and reading but not posting too much on this issue but CTyankee Jul 2014 #228

he held some sway in the Hosts forum, where they ignore sexism and racism these days.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #259

you just can't stop yourself. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #274

on THAT one topic perhaps. Generally, a few hosts enjoyed beating up on alerters with him. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #282

So your point is what? That Hassin Bin Sober said something snarky in the hosts forum? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #287

Go for it. I am game. I am not afraid to post what I put back there in GD. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #293

This is 100% true, when you spoke up- you were insulted and mocked by hosts. bettyellen Jul 2014 #299

So you also have a list. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #312

lol. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #313

"As far as I am concerned, hosting can go away entirely sufrommich Jul 2014 #317

I asked him that yesterday, and got no substantive response. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #324

oh bullshit - you just didn't like my responses Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #329

blah blah blah Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #333

yes exactly, you have nothing to actually say. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #399

because if gd hosting was left only to those who want to lock up everything gd would suck. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #327

no one could have found a reason to lock "women should be raped" because it's "authoritarian" bettyellen Jul 2014 #339

And that is just a lie. That op was hidden by jury before it ever got to the hosts. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #566

What bothers me from the position of an outside observer BainsBane Jul 2014 #458

given the other rule: consensus, consistency is pretty much impossible. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #492

I saw what was posted from the host forum, and it was clear what was happening. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #326

quinnox and a few others did a good job of turning it on its head PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #334

He found the weaknesses in the more libertarian hosts' "rules" they were making up, and exploited bettyellen Jul 2014 #341

if only that was the only host beating up on Duers instead of this troll- one blamed everyone but Q bettyellen Jul 2014 #295

Yeah I posted that. And I stand by it. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #613

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #615

something wrong there...SMH... CTyankee Jul 2014 #345

and the posts between what you responded to and this one are a pretty big clue as to what bettyellen Jul 2014 #347

Any star member can host. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #64

I'm like you Coolest Ranger Jul 2014 #91

Hey you! sheshe2 Jul 2014 #171

Same here. I have to admit that I didn't see that one coming MrScorpio Jul 2014 #93

Because you never ever post hot headed / alert worthy. He was trolling for reactions to alert on bettyellen Jul 2014 #151

Ah, oh yeah. Exactly! MrScorpio Jul 2014 #156

he didn't want to self delete another entire OP, so he PMd an host (one of those that defend bettyellen Jul 2014 #160

Wow. That was slick MrScorpio Jul 2014 #162

And now there's a jilted host ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #204

never lock a thread as a favor to a friend, or never secretly unlock one? bettyellen Jul 2014 #225

This thing where he edited posts to make them nastier and more disruptive AFTER they had Squinch Jul 2014 #453

Let's not forget his self deleted OP... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #190

yeah- how is that an issue of current event? What a shit hole GD has become! You'd think some bettyellen Jul 2014 #318

That is a distinct possibility, bettyellen. eom sheshe2 Jul 2014 #403

I should be surprised by that sort of thing here..and would have been on DU2. mtnester Jul 2014 #430

I am with you on that, mtnester. eom sheshe2 Jul 2014 #433

Agreed, I am confused as well. I don't know them well enough. Xyzse Jul 2014 #153

I think that poster did a deliberate flameout LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #159

I'm kinda skeptical of the ruling myself, TBH. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #221

OF COURSE YOU ARE XemaSab Jul 2014 #227

" You wouldn't recognize racism or sexism if they assaulted you in broad daylight." AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #232

True.nt bravenak Jul 2014 #364

TBH, I would go even further, TBH, A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #229

Lol. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #233

I don't see the humor in this. Fail. nt AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #235

You can say that again, A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #239

Of course, he doesn't see humor either. Add it to the list! LOL boston bean Jul 2014 #257

TBH XemaSab Jul 2014 #247

<3 Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #256

lol redqueen Jul 2014 #269

ROFL Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #374

You're definitely on my list of Duers to meet in real life. BainsBane Jul 2014 #460

Ha, thanks, Bains. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #488

TBH, the next month won't be the same without old Joe Number23 Jul 2014 #467

I also noticed that, TBH. bravenak Jul 2014 #472

TBH, he got one of his hides BECAUSE of me Number23 Jul 2014 #473

TBH, i'm not to sure he believes in us people, IMHO. bravenak Jul 2014 #474

With all due respect, he has personally helped you people to learn, in all honesty, betsuni Jul 2014 #476

AMEN. bravenak Jul 2014 #477

I forgot about the "wise beyond his years" thing, TBH betsuni Jul 2014 #478

I've been doing it too. bravenak Jul 2014 #479

I don't know... betsuni Jul 2014 #480

If it's real....... bravenak Jul 2014 #482

I know, it is sad betsuni Jul 2014 #485

LOL!! bravenak Jul 2014 #486

TBH, or NTBH? bluedigger Jul 2014 #591

It sure is. bravenak Jul 2014 #599

Good one! betsuni Jul 2014 #647

"Racism, It Happens To White Folks Too, TBH" Number23 Jul 2014 #625

LOL m-lekktor Jul 2014 #642

I just noticed I spelled "plaque" wrong. betsuni Jul 2014 #644

LOL nt m-lekktor Jul 2014 #653

You guys are making me laugh out loud at work with the TBH tingy. Rex Jul 2014 #569

I straight told him the other day XemaSab Jul 2014 #600

TBH, your Dad was right. bravenak Jul 2014 #601

My dad used to say the same thing. He used to say that the minute they say something to the Squinch Jul 2014 #612

Yes and I have found in life that it IS true. Rex Jul 2014 #614

If people were being honest, they would say, "I'm about to start lying to you now." Squinch Jul 2014 #617

Of course you didn't. cyberswede Jul 2014 #250

Well, I can at least how the abuse of hosting privileges would be a problem. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #258

"But the post itself seemed fine." - that's the POINT cyberswede Jul 2014 #267

My response. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #271

He wasn't careless...he was deliberate. cyberswede Jul 2014 #276

I'm afraid you and I are on two different pages here. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #279

What? cyberswede Jul 2014 #281

He doesn't see what you said. boston bean Jul 2014 #304

I guess I'll have to wait till August 8th to get an answer. cyberswede Jul 2014 #393

I'll have bells on when he returns. TBH... no really, TBH. boston bean Jul 2014 #394

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #405

when someone is "careless" all the fucking time, for years it is not a mistake.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #305

Thanks for the rundown, cs.. yeah, he had that "me innocent.. it's everyone's else who's Cha Jul 2014 #415

"His schtick was to post offensive stuff, and then act all innocent - like he did it unintentionally Number23 Jul 2014 #466

Me too, TBH cyberswede Jul 2014 #504

LOL. Of course you didn't see it- you never see what women or POC do.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #261

All I can say is that admins don't ban longtime posters on a whim. Rex Jul 2014 #316

. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #9

Can someone provide some context please? redgreenandblue Jul 2014 #10

I'm curious too, the latest post that he had hidden rudolph the red Jul 2014 #36

Read this thread. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #40

I should have read further before posting, rudolph the red Jul 2014 #53

he was abusing mercuryblues Jul 2014 #49

This is a very succinct accurate assessment of the last straw. Thank you. uppityperson Jul 2014 #132

One last time: You Better Believe It! FSogol Jul 2014 #11

He just needs love... Phentex Jul 2014 #14

Long overdue. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #27

One more thing: Don't push your luck. easychoice Jul 2014 #17

I'd love to know what he was banned for tkmorris Jul 2014 #23

see here PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #28

Yeah, same here. FiveGoodMen Jul 2014 #30

I think it had to do with his hosting behavior. BainsBane Jul 2014 #41

I think he jumped the shark when he started his 'cut lip' thread muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #88

I wouldn't call him a troll Marrah_G Jul 2014 #25

the "others " maily being feminists and POC, as liked to mock both- so I am thinking bettyellen Jul 2014 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Jul 2014 #38

I agree with you... AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #33

I would. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #37

I did. Call Me Wesley Jul 2014 #46

yes you did.:) PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #54

Right back atcha ... Call Me Wesley Jul 2014 #79

many people missed disgusting things he posted because he'd "self delete" constantly- bettyellen Jul 2014 #45

I missed alot of that I think- but did see him act like an ass on more then one occasion. Marrah_G Jul 2014 #94

Ahhh, I thought trolling was just posting to antagonize and disrupt others? bettyellen Jul 2014 #100

EarlG called him a troll. Heidi Jul 2014 #71

I'd have to respectfully disagree. His comments on women and black people usually hovered between Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #86

Oh I do think the tombstone was well earned Marrah_G Jul 2014 #89

OK. In that case I'll say, he occasionally dabbled in trollism. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #116

LOL! Marrah_G Jul 2014 #283

. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #284

Thank you for making me giggle Guy :) Marrah_G Jul 2014 #286

I try. I've enjoyed reading your posts over the years BTW. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #349

Aww thank you :) Marrah_G Jul 2014 #353

I asked when he planned to self delete it and he said Phentex Jul 2014 #90

That may be true. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #255

That would depend on how you define "troll." MineralMan Jul 2014 #280

It must be getting crowded under there. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #31

Are you from Seattle? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #77

Nowhere near it. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #179

This was alerted on, don't have results yet. newcriminal Jul 2014 #44

good on the hosts for letting it ride. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #47

Grave dancing threads have aways been allowed.nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #52

I know. but he's their friend, you see. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #57

well I'm dancing as fast as I can! Phentex Jul 2014 #55

despite most often leaving these open- he will get special treatment from his host friends. Again.. bettyellen Jul 2014 #66

did you catch what she wrote before deleting? if so, please share PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #68

No I did not. Amazing the hosts are leaning towards one last favor to their friend the troll, by bettyellen Jul 2014 #73

Hi bettyellen theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #106

It's not an SOP violation and the jury handles alerts for people who think it's offensive. boston bean Jul 2014 #109

Well, I was not an alerter theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #125

Thanks, I am sorry if it offends and locking this would likely be perceived as another favor bettyellen Jul 2014 #120

Thanks for the extra information theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #129

Yeah, just like Quinnox, if you had no history- you might think it was all an innocent mistake. bettyellen Jul 2014 #144

Like I said, I was totally confused theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #161

I saw that immediately. When I hosted a few times, there were always a few who tried to bettyellen Jul 2014 #173

The lack of certainty and consistency makes it really hard for anyone new theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #176

Yeah, definitely camps, and some still pro-troll by the looks of it. bettyellen Jul 2014 #194

wtf? "did you know there are hosts who keep lists of "groups" DUers they dislike and dissuade..." uppityperson Jul 2014 #177

Oh yeah- I am in a "group" to be ignored. Not one other GD host defended us alerters who bettyellen Jul 2014 #192

Thank you. And now for the suspicious, what was sent I had already seen and noticed, just forgot uppityperson Jul 2014 #196

This is why the Forum & Group Hosts forum sufrommich Jul 2014 #84

totally agree. Earl says there will be changes, and hopefully switching out the hosts sooner bettyellen Jul 2014 #87

+++ uppityperson Jul 2014 #178

From having been admin at my own robust JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #191

BINGO !! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #135

+1... SidDithers Jul 2014 #145

hot and UnHoly but, will not quibble. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #186

make it read only and tighten up the rules steve2470 Jul 2014 #152

Can I recommend your post a thousand times? theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #165

thanks ! :) nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #168

and the hosts refuse to address openly RW , sexist or racist OPs at all as disruptive.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #166

See, bettyellen, this is where I get lost theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #172

Edward Snowden, Greenwald - and those obsessive about "Third Way" Dems like Bill Clinton bettyellen Jul 2014 #187

That was such an enlightening post! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #198

It took a long time for that host to explain what my "group" was supposed to be! bettyellen Jul 2014 #202

Not shocked JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #234

Everyone should read this post. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #200

Thank you- I was considering posting an OP about it, but am not as good at that as some people bettyellen Jul 2014 #218

Who are the 6, bettyellen?...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #440

me, zappaman, number 23, peace nikki (the only one I actually knew, LOL) and I think cormy guss? bettyellen Jul 2014 #441

Thanks... SidDithers Jul 2014 #443

yeah- me and zappa were like- "Nice to meet you!" LOL bettyellen Jul 2014 #444

If I'm on somebody's "ignore alerts" list, it's personal. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #558

Hmmm...this might explain that when I did rarely alert on something in GD Rex Jul 2014 #575

+1 n/t FSogol Jul 2014 #254

"Kind of ironic coming from a group of people who take back-room secret agreements so seriously". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #362

Yep, and you hear them say it's "bad form" to talk about it out in GD.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #365

I know we're celebrating his departure, but I wonder if he went very far? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #368

I am far less generous toward that attitude BainsBane Jul 2014 #457

You framed that perfectly, all of it. Journaling this! freshwest Jul 2014 #511

Well done. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #275

Wish I wasn't OP shy - I am sure it would be locked by hosts anyway. bettyellen Jul 2014 #277

Finally I understand! THANK YOU! betsuni Jul 2014 #411

You are WELCOME! It took a long time to get the truth out about "the group"- but yeah it's bettyellen Jul 2014 #413

You just won DU. People that believe shit like this not only are NOT "left" Number23 Jul 2014 #470

Well when we (+4) were "grouped" by that host I did not understand the connection at all. bettyellen Jul 2014 #507

What do you mean by this? Sissyk Jul 2014 #519

Hi Sissy PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #535

I agree with you that there is some Sissyk Jul 2014 #546

And let me add if I may. Sissyk Jul 2014 #548

I mentioned it in context of general tone and host accountability in the animosity that continues. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #551

Yes, we should strive to remaind civil. Sissyk Jul 2014 #557

+1,000,000! freshwest Jul 2014 #512

BRAVO! Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #528

A post that's RW, sexist, racist, or otherwise disruptive is a jury matter. winter is coming Jul 2014 #308

exactly. this is what started the whole mess between GD hosts and other hosts PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #311

The SOP has been stretched to cover everything to the point where "Women should be raped" is bettyellen Jul 2014 #314

"Women should be raped" is obvious flamebait, but it's not an SOP violation for GD. winter is coming Jul 2014 #320

politics issues and current events is STILL in the SOP- just like that idiotic "one strong leave" bettyellen Jul 2014 #332

You're arguing that hosts should function as juries. That makes no sense. winter is coming Jul 2014 #367

Or... PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #372

If I go up to the OP and click the "this post is disruptive" button, where will the alert go? winter is coming Jul 2014 #384

You do get that a disruptive, off-topic post can, in fact, be both against SOP and CS, right? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #385

Yes, I get that. I also get that hosts hide SOP violations, not CS violations. winter is coming Jul 2014 #386

huh. so that paragraph skinner wrote means nothing? why are we called 'hosts' if we're like robots PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #389

I'm not sure what Skinner wrote means what you think it does. winter is coming Jul 2014 #391

most hosts would deny this: "you are empowered to use your own best judgment " bettyellen Jul 2014 #387

Some hosts have convinced others there is no SOP anymore- only because it was stretched for harmless bettyellen Jul 2014 #375

I'm arguing they can- and have been encouraged by Skinner to follow the SOP at times when it is bettyellen Jul 2014 #398

And them there's the Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #412

The rules are made up- and remade constantly- mostly by the most vocal and libertarian leaning hosts freshwest Jul 2014 #515

Just latching onto your post here Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #559

I had no idea this was going on, honestly. It's very disappointing. I pay for a star like others. freshwest Jul 2014 #607

And as we now know, your claim that the hosts allowed the op "Women should be raped" Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #560

That's scary stuff there. Sad but good to know. It feels that way at times... freshwest Jul 2014 #459

FYI Chan790 Jul 2014 #101

Thanks! Every stinking Quinnox thread, I would get 3-4 bad alerts. Dude has minions! bettyellen Jul 2014 #105

my latest hide was in his shaving thread CreekDog Jul 2014 #206

Same here BainsBane Jul 2014 #461

I've yet to see a grave dancing thread hidden. BainsBane Jul 2014 #67

I voted to leave it, we will see. newcriminal Jul 2014 #75

Oh, it's been alerted to the jury, as well as to the hosts now? bettyellen Jul 2014 #96

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #468

I heard about that BainsBane Jul 2014 #469

it highlights the inconsistencies in hosting... Phentex Jul 2014 #493

The results are in. newcriminal Jul 2014 #95

The hide without explanation BainsBane Jul 2014 #97

reminds me of when hosts get angry when you ask why and label it harrassment...... bettyellen Jul 2014 #103

Actually that was the 2nd alert on this OP. FreedRadical Jul 2014 #110

I love Juror #3! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #113

This is what happens when you cut your lip shaving. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #56

Thread WIN! KittyWampus Jul 2014 #117

LOL ... EarlG is The Styptic Pencil of Justice Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #189

! CreekDog Jul 2014 #203

quinnex was a classic troller. Lars39 Jul 2014 #59

He will not be missed. bluedigger Jul 2014 #76

Huzzah! shenmue Jul 2014 #78

good riddance. he was obviously a troll, painfully so nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #82

The DU Gods are sometimes slow, but they usually catch up in the end. You Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #111

Don't care so much that he locked his own OP. The wcgreen thing was inexcusable. stevenleser Jul 2014 #112

it makes no sense at all that he did not know... Phentex Jul 2014 #115

I guess he's just an asshole who likes it when good people suffer... nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #408

I had him on "ignore" so thanks for letting me know. nt TeamPooka Jul 2014 #119

Yes!!! Best tombstone since DKF!!! Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #121

but dkf was a little better at it, this one would post obvious racist, sexist crap JI7 Jul 2014 #220

and this is because hosts suddenly took a blind eye toward RW, sexist and racist crap.... bettyellen Jul 2014 #237

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that crap going down in the Host Forum. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #263

Not by a longshot. But quinnox and others turn ALL attempts to address it into attacks on the PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #265

Too many of the hosts have expressed open hostility to alerters. They hate the system, and allowed a bettyellen Jul 2014 #273

One host did the same thing in MIRT....it really destroyed that term. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #573

I did not understand the connection to those obsessed with Third Wayers until the discriminating bettyellen Jul 2014 #266

You nailed it - THEY ARE LIBERTARIANS. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #278

if your priority is NSA data but not women being jailed and scoped against their wills- you're a bettyellen Jul 2014 #289

I have believed this for some time. Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #414

... freshwest Jul 2014 #542

One bothersome thing about this = Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #122

Every fucking time I replied to his posts, I would get alerts. His scam was to inflame people bettyellen Jul 2014 #150

wow. that bad, eh? He really flew under my radar until just recently. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #167

I am pretty sure it was a drawer full, by the volume of BS alerts I assume he had a few bettyellen Jul 2014 #170

I had him on ignore for a long time.. something smelled fishy. Look at all I missed until this Cha Jul 2014 #436

I had him on my blacklist Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #222

Mine too, I went to add a name to replace- and THREE slots had opened up in the last 10-12 weeks bettyellen Jul 2014 #352

OOOhhh...."blacklist". I get to drop him, and add another of his ilk. Thanks for the reminder. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #366

Sweet trumad Jul 2014 #123

i've read through this whole thread Enrique Jul 2014 #124

Sounds like he had a habit of crowding his luck and it finally caught up with him. winter is coming Jul 2014 #131

it's a pattern of antagonistic behavior coupled with openly racist and sexist attitudes that clued bettyellen Jul 2014 #134

Yep. That was it. BainsBane Jul 2014 #210

There was a great OP/Article posted awhile back ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #223

this post gives the final reason. uppityperson Jul 2014 #137

He was messing with the Host system and forum. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #138

ok thanks SM and uppityperson Enrique Jul 2014 #155

He was openly antagonistic towards women and women's rights. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #148

He was also a racist and not at all subtle about it. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #193

+1 BainsBane Jul 2014 #214

But, because he never dropped the N-bomb ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #230

I've been saying for a while that's a huge drawback of juries. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #240

If the jurors put that much thought into it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #249

There's some truth to that, I think. MineralMan Jul 2014 #505

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #513

I almost never see alert rulings on my posts. MineralMan Jul 2014 #516

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #541

You're right, of course. MineralMan Jul 2014 #544

I just have to figure out a way ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #547

Not a simple thing. MineralMan Jul 2014 #549

And pointing that out ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #553

Yes. It can. I'm not sure I know a solution, either. MineralMan Jul 2014 #554

Please start a GOTDV-2014 Thread! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #556

A troll's intent is to disrupt. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #397

he was rightly banned for fucking with the system. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #404

I think I missed the full story! Helen Borg Jul 2014 #136

Well said Andy823 Jul 2014 #140

Oh Happy Day! Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #143

I've been a little sad about some people who have gotten the boot Warpy Jul 2014 #154

Anything Democrats were unified about, he always wanted to change the subject. Big clue! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #157

And he didn't like black people's hair CreekDog Jul 2014 #181

I knew he had issues, wasn't sure about the source, but the afro thingie speaks volumes. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #188

What? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #205

take a look, see if i quoted him accurately: CreekDog Jul 2014 #209

you know, it used to bother me to see the saved links- but after this? No more. bettyellen Jul 2014 #211

What? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #236

what indeed. here, take a look... CreekDog Jul 2014 #248

By that criterion XemaSab Jul 2014 #251

Gawd, what an asshole. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #571

He disrupted poorly.. I had him ignore for a long time. I did not want to even Cha Jul 2014 #416

Yeah, if he wasn't a ratfucker I don't know who is. Well, actually I do..... bettyellen Jul 2014 #208

We could probably compare lists ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #243

Only 3? My entire jury blacklist is questionable. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #370

I don't have a jury blacklist, nor do I ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #376

well, 20% of my jury blacklist has been PPR in the last two months, so I can pick em alright. bettyellen Jul 2014 #396

And I bet I'm thinking of the same three!! Number23 Jul 2014 #471

I'm being very generous ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #496

So you have a list? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #292

I am not judging alerts by WHO alerted on WHO, as some hosts admittedly do. bettyellen Jul 2014 #297

I'm saying that you are continually misrepresenting what it is that hosts are supposed to do Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #307

how about you tell the other GD hosts to stop bashing alerters? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #309

Very few hosts correct others when they trash alerters, or people in the flamebait thread... bettyellen Jul 2014 #343

one of the current hosts often calls perfectly reasonable alerts "disruptive" PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #346

disruptive if you are Libertarian or an anarchist- but not if you agreed to the TOS here, FFS. bettyellen Jul 2014 #348

I took to heart the part where skinner said hosts are too make members feel welcome. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #351

and to take a look at the effort made and intent of the thread - if they effort and intent are small bettyellen Jul 2014 #354

they picked the word "host" for a reason. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #357

It is impossible to believe that those who want to "leave everything" actually believe that was bettyellen Jul 2014 #361

we both know there is no actual agreement on what hosts are *supposed* to do bettyellen Jul 2014 #310

There were hosts who wanted to leave "All women should be raped?" kcr Jul 2014 #381

well- they have been convinced by some others that no matter how extreme the sexism or racism - bettyellen Jul 2014 #390

Sounds like it's been rendered completely useless kcr Jul 2014 #401

yeah, pretty intentional. very funny how the "one strong leave" thing was discarded after bettyellen Jul 2014 #402

If he was only pretending to be as ignernt as he appeared A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #158

I say he plied his craft quite well Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #174

Thank you for confirming my suspicions because A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #183

I don't know that EarlG's referring to him as a troll means it was an act BainsBane Jul 2014 #207

Well, there is no law against simple stupidity A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #216

Excuse me, Mr. Schwarzenegger, but are you betsuni Jul 2014 #418

I certainly am not, Sir or Madame. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #421

. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #423

Oh, Mr. Schwarzenegger! betsuni Jul 2014 #426

Does that mean there is no subpeona (sp?) involved? A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #432

No, I promise, you will not be hearing from my lawyers in the morning. betsuni Jul 2014 #434

I almost put WCW's poem in there! A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #435

Yes, low hanging fruit betsuni Jul 2014 #438

One logical conclusion to the HL decision is to take companies out of the equation. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #371

Absolutely BainsBane Jul 2014 #420

Very true that "trolling" isn't necessarily intentional. The effect matters more than the motive. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #419

Oh, good laundry_queen Jul 2014 #169

Great minds and all. I said the exact same thing. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #380

Wow, oh wow ... I'm shocked, I tell you....SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! MADem Jul 2014 #180

Since 2002! Renew Deal Jul 2014 #182

Video without comment intaglio Jul 2014 #212

what took to fucking long ? good riddance to the racist, sexist POS JI7 Jul 2014 #213

Well that's one down XemaSab Jul 2014 #217

About f*cking Time RetroLounge Jul 2014 #244

Does anyone actually believe he's gone? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #253

What a weirdo, and I don't mean that in a good way. Quantess Jul 2014 #290

I'm not sure about the first part of your post. he was always complaining about the so called Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #291

Yes, I know, RECENTLY, that is. Quantess Jul 2014 #302

Slang and gendered slurs are two different things. redqueen Jul 2014 #303

Yes, yes... I don't think we need to rehash any of this well-worn Meta topic Quantess Jul 2014 #306

Quinnox could make some money Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #298

Too long XemaSab Jul 2014 #300

Yup. He was a great example of a right winger posing as a liberal Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #395

I find it interesting there is no cave thread on this yet. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #315

Even if he is not a CC troll, abusing hosting privileges like he did Rex Jul 2014 #323

Agreed but my point my mean nothing. it sometimes takes the cave awhile to pick up hrmjustin Jul 2014 #325

Yeah true, I know some DUers are keeping a constant eye on their lair. Rex Jul 2014 #328

Many times when I self delete I feel like I have to explain it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #330

Reminds me of the fella that tried to take the host forum hostage a few years ago. Rex Jul 2014 #335

Graham? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #336

Maybe, I don't remember the name. Just that they demanded the admins Rex Jul 2014 #337

that doesn't sound like graham. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #340

LoZoccolo nt Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #378

Yes thanks, that is the one. nt Rex Jul 2014 #442

They scarcely miss a PPR notice BainsBane Jul 2014 #350

if he's a mod there too, who is busy deleting threads on himself? bettyellen Jul 2014 #356

lol. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #363

Good point. Rex Jul 2014 #439

He shouldn't have tried to abuse his hosting privileges. Rex Jul 2014 #319

He should have been banned on content alone Renew Deal Jul 2014 #449

This is another case of someone PPR'd who didn't get that many hides BainsBane Jul 2014 #355

+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #422

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #358

This was long, long overdue, imo... Spazito Jul 2014 #360

community standards don't address passive aggressive concern trolls CreekDog Jul 2014 #577

Yes, it was VERY frustrating to watch happen over and over again... Spazito Jul 2014 #580

and while he was ppr'd, i think gd hosts were blamed for what happened CreekDog Jul 2014 #586

No matter how bad my physical aches and pains are, some days Jamastiene Jul 2014 #377

I see some are not taking it well. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #400

i am surprised at how many are insulting the admins.... Phentex Jul 2014 #424

That and there was an ugly thread calling another member to be banned without naming the poster. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #425

Is this all in the hosts forum? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #437

No, it was in GD BainsBane Jul 2014 #462

Take a bow for that one, ma'am. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #463

I deserve neither credit nor blame BainsBane Jul 2014 #464

Earned or not, the scorn of those geek tragedy Jul 2014 #465

I knew you would be blamed. bravenak Jul 2014 #500

Yes, you did BainsBane Jul 2014 #506

So according to these folks JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #502

I haven't read all the thread so I missed that.. but, no they don't PPR on a whim. Cha Jul 2014 #431

Long overdue... Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #446

Good! stage left Jul 2014 #450

I always thought so... Most of the time s/he trolled from the left ecstatic Jul 2014 #451

Couldn't remember whether to troll left or right? flamingdem Jul 2014 #659

you know jberryhill Jul 2014 #452

unapolegetic GRAVE DANCE! DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #475

This is who I saw every time he posted... seaglass Jul 2014 #483

An accomplished troll yes, skirted the system for a long damn time. BootinUp Jul 2014 #508

What an enlightening thread this has been... Raffi Ella Jul 2014 #585

Agreed. thucythucy Jul 2014 #645

I don't get how Admins let it go on for so long, Raffi Ella Jul 2014 #674

I thought of it as the slime in "Ghostbusters 2" that feeds off negative vibes. betsuni Jul 2014 #652

This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Jul 2014 #594

WHAT THE FUCK TOOK SO LONG? tabasco Jul 2014 #646

Nothing like a little DU drama! ReverendDeuce Jul 2014 #662

another name I can take off my ignore list n/t RainDog Jul 2014 #682

Ok, how long DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #685

probably already here... Phentex Jul 2014 #687

But when you're playing with one Lego, A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #688