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84. I'm not suprised that, as a Clinton critic, that you view her as a one dimensional figure

Wed Jul 9, 2014, 10:23 PM

Jul 2014

. . .as just another tool of her parent's political ambitions. Her life experiences speak to much more than that. I really don't expect you to realize that or acknowledge that. You're much too enmeshed in some political opposition to the Clintons. Sadly, to you, her very vital and life altering efforts outside of that 2008 campaign are just abstractions in your political play.

I think her family connection has helped her in her advocacy for women’s rights, AIDS research and global LGBT rights and other humanitarianism. You don't just 'hop in and out of' the things you believe in and advocate and fight for.

It's fairly typical for folks to put campaigns aside in favor of a focus on real life concerns when the elections are over. Calling her a public figure, and denying her right to be viewed as a private citizen because of her involvement in that campaign or because of her family association is an amazing devaluation of her as an individual; as an independent woman. Fortunately, you're not the ultimate judge of that.

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Chelsea Clinton Follows Parents� Lead as a Paid Speaker [View all] PoliticAverse Jul 2014 OP

I wish I could get paid to talk. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1

I'd settle for getting paid not to talk... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #3

lol. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #4

Seriously, $75,000 a pop! Geeez! Good thing Chelsea doesn't care about money; God only knows how much she would be charging then. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #65

She's donating it to the foundation. Should she care about the charitable foundation's money? pnwmom Jul 2014 #153

omg YES! All that dirty corporate cash the Foundation collects obiousvly in xchange 4 political favors? ABSOLUTELY! We should all care bout that money. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #156

"Its hard work" - Dubyuh Mika Jul 2014 #2

Oh really, guess you never heard that Bill and Hillary both donate speech earnings to the CGI. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #5

One thing's for sure. lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #6

Apparently Coulter gets in the neighborhood of $25-30k for her appearances. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #10

I'd pay to have her not talk!!!!!!!!!!! Marrah_G Jul 2014 #16

Hahaha, good one! Me too! Just the sound of Coulter's voice is grating enough. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #67

so what? bigtree Jul 2014 #7

The whole family's an inspiration for overcoming poverty leftstreet Jul 2014 #8

inspiring, attacking Hillary's daughter bigtree Jul 2014 #11

I'm serious. Hillary said they were dead broke when left WH leftstreet Jul 2014 #12

sounds snarky and as disingenuous as this thread bigtree Jul 2014 #19

You remember the VRWC, the impeachment, Ken Starr? Million$ and million$ in legal fee$.... Hekate Jul 2014 #104

And millions in book deals, speaking engagements, corporate board memberships, etc... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #126

"Sympathetic"? So did they deserve the mangling they got for trying to serve the country? Hekate Jul 2014 #130

Which one would be making $75,000 for a speech? Stellar Jul 2014 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author mylye2222 Jul 2014 #9

Just asking, but what Democrat do you prefer? Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #13

Elizabeth Warren would be my choice. for 2016 mylye2222 Jul 2014 #17

why does this private citizen merit such an attack? bigtree Jul 2014 #18

I do believe she is wrong, mylye2222 Jul 2014 #21

ridiculous bigtree Jul 2014 #22

No. She's a public figure who campaigned for Hillary. DirkGently Jul 2014 #59

what does that have to do with the money she's earned? bigtree Jul 2014 #62

That's your beef. But she's a public figure. DirkGently Jul 2014 #64

she is a private citizen bigtree Jul 2014 #71

Yes. She's a public figure, as I said. DirkGently Jul 2014 #74

she's a private citizen. bigtree Jul 2014 #76

Er? You don't hop in and out of being a public figure. DirkGently Jul 2014 #80

I'm not suprised that, as a Clinton critic, that you view her as a one dimensional figure bigtree Jul 2014 #84

She's a public figure, bt. It's not a partisan question. DirkGently Jul 2014 #90

hey, the article's about Chelsea. YOU interjected Hillary into this. Not me. bigtree Jul 2014 #96

Independent individuals are public figures too, bt. DirkGently Jul 2014 #100

Hatred Renew Deal Jul 2014 #115

And what is your opinion? BootinUp Jul 2014 #14

must be nice Marrah_G Jul 2014 #15

A pittance to learn about her vast experiences and life lessons. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #20

let's see bigtree Jul 2014 #23

Among probably thousands of equally experienced and talented women. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #25

that's a description of most successful people bigtree Jul 2014 #26

Again, why her and not someone similar? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #31

well, I'm just not concerned about 'why her' bigtree Jul 2014 #32

Um, to her bank account. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #37

read the article that you're riffing off of bigtree Jul 2014 #40

Oh sorry - she can do things like that since she's married to a bankster. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #41

... nolabear Jul 2014 #45

OH, WAIIIIIIT. DUH! She's a DEMOCRAT! My mistake. He's an Investment Banker, not a bankster. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #47

that's certainly a plus. More power to her. She's advocating for some pretty important issues. bigtree Jul 2014 #53

Glad you hold the investment banking community in such high regard. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #55

this is what I hold in high regard bigtree Jul 2014 #58

I hold all those in high regard, along with economic equality joeglow3 Jul 2014 #111

I hold moving the goalposts in high regard too... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #109

You realize that what you just did here is called "Moving the Goalposts" right? nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #60

She's had a lot of experiences treestar Jul 2014 #79

I have nothing against Chelsea, and wish her the best. Maedhros Jul 2014 #29

This is true, and why we are a generational oligarchy PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #30

the name recognition is certainly a plus bigtree Jul 2014 #34

Let this be a lesson - "choose your parents wisely"... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #51

Let this be a lesson: Don't be a class traitor if you have lotsa bucks, like FDR or JFK or Nelson... Hekate Jul 2014 #135

Much as our own wages come across as elitism to Sub-Saharan subsistence farmers... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #108

Would love to see her in Detroit helping those families find water to wash with and drink. KoKo Jul 2014 #66

You have absolutely NO idea of what the Clintons have chosen to concern themselves with bigtree Jul 2014 #73

+100000000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #133

Attacking people for supplying what's in demand is disgusting. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #24

... Phlem Jul 2014 #56

Is she a salaried employee of the Clinton Foundation? tularetom Jul 2014 #27

"Mr. Bazbaz said Ms. Clinton was not paid for her role as the organization�s vice chairwoman." n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #36

It's all in LLC's, 501-C's and other finacial boondoogling the Clever, Highly Paid KoKo Jul 2014 #70

Uhmm MMMMM MMM MMM CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #28

how quaint bigtree Jul 2014 #35

Would you pay someone $75,000 for a speech if it helped your organization to raise $2.1 million? PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #48

Damn her for being a strong, well educated, interesting woman that people want to hear!...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #33

I guess 75K is a bargain, since according to you hagiographers she'll soon get her first Nobel. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #38

I'd be most interested in comparing her public service work to your own bigtree Jul 2014 #42

I don't get $75K, though. She does. Why? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #44

... nolabear Jul 2014 #46

Maybe she has experiences that many others don't... SidDithers Jul 2014 #52

You don't deserve $75K. She does. Why? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #120

She deserves more than most people make in a year? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #122

She also doesn't care about money joeglow3 Jul 2014 #112

Bitter much?... SidDithers Jul 2014 #49

Yup. Bit him, too. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #50

Bitter and jealous like a Cha Jul 2014 #88

Yeah, this is a market thing treestar Jul 2014 #69

Soory guys, I went to harsh on Chealsy in my first comment mylye2222 Jul 2014 #39

The speaking engagement fees go to the Clinton Foundation which supports these kinds of issues.. Cha Jul 2014 #89

I guess its a good thing Socks is dead. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #43

Nah, but Socks would be on Sunday LOL Cats. n/t amandabeech Jul 2014 #94

I could do that too cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #54

Someone like Chelsea brings a lot of attention and $$$ to orgs. Whatever fee she gets is a pittance Metric System Jul 2014 #57

... and the relevance of this is? etherealtruth Jul 2014 #61

Nepotism is cool under the right circumstances. Throd Jul 2014 #63

Nothing against her treestar Jul 2014 #68

it just takes a little research to answer that bigtree Jul 2014 #75

I read your thread treestar Jul 2014 #78

I wish someone would pay the Clinton family to go away (nt) bigwillq Jul 2014 #72

I'll contribute $5.00 to kick off the fund. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #155

Great! Thanks you! bigwillq Jul 2014 #157

You Chelsea bashers need to get a job. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #77

I see it as more contempt for a structure that creates this. Throd Jul 2014 #81

What? Contempt for a Rhodes scholar, former governor, two-term President, LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #85

Contempt for dynasties and buying political influence from the well-connected. Throd Jul 2014 #86

Bravo HangOnKids Jul 2014 #95

well, the money goes into the Clinton's charitable foundation bigtree Jul 2014 #97

In a just society there would be no need for "charitable efforts" PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #146

+10000 Instead, we get Clinton ownership of first NAFTA and now the bloody TPP. woo me with science Jul 2014 #151

A just society includes charitable efforts. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #152

Oh Gawd. The only hot mess around here LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #99

What about the Chelsea worshipers? joeglow3 Jul 2014 #113

Who's worshiping her? She's a decent and intelligent person LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #136

Do you feel the same about the bush daughters? joeglow3 Jul 2014 #137

When have I bashed the Bush daughters? LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #138

I asked you a question joeglow3 Jul 2014 #140

I don't feel anything about the Bush daughters. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #142

That we have created a culture where a select few families rule the nation joeglow3 Jul 2014 #143

The Clintons don't rule; Barack Obama doesn't rule. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #144

Wow, that went way over your head joeglow3 Jul 2014 #147

Your words: LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #148

You are easily offended. joeglow3 Jul 2014 #149

Your statement is misogynistic. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #150

They need more than jobs Renew Deal Jul 2014 #118

And one of these... LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #139

My parents aren't rich and famous enough to get me that sort of job. Orsino Jul 2014 #145

As a private citizen, Chelsea can earn money by any legal means she wants. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #82

They're grooming a future trojan donkey, that's all. Marr Jul 2014 #83

Wow! The demand for children of Presidential politicians joe_sixpack Jul 2014 #87

She's worth it. Check out her no-holds-barred Geico lizard interview. Brilliant. whereisjustice Jul 2014 #91

Bill and Hillary net worth $101.5m. Chelsea worth $15m LittleBlue Jul 2014 #92

Good for her. Its an honest living. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #93

good for her. spanone Jul 2014 #98

What the hell is she going to talk to about? trublu992 Jul 2014 #101

this bigtree Jul 2014 #102

+1 Hekate Jul 2014 #105

This is informative, although it reads like a planted puff piece. trublu992 Jul 2014 #107

I tried to only include things that had substance. Obviously I chose things that were favorable bigtree Jul 2014 #110

Yes, she's a woman. What does she know? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #116

That's funny because I'm a woman trublu992 Jul 2014 #125

So a speech from any of them is a donation to causes they support. Got that. Boyoboy how evil. Hekate Jul 2014 #103

Her hubbies a hedge-funder ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #106

How do you know if she needs money or not? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #117

Tells you everything you need to know about Chelsea. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #128

How dare she? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #114

Clinton, Clinton, and Clinton Inc. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #119

I like Chelsea hamsterjill Jul 2014 #121

The howlers excoriate the shit out of people like Greenwald for making any money at all whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #123

+1 laundry_queen Jul 2014 #127

+10000000000000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #124

I like the Clintons, but... Mike Nelson Jul 2014 #129

agreed. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #131

What's wrong with her continuing her work for the foundation? That's where her fees are going. pnwmom Jul 2014 #154

Yeesh MFrohike Jul 2014 #141