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DetlefK

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11. Reminds me of Hungary and Romania.

Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:36 AM

Jul 2014

Romania has a huge hungarian minority and both countries are neighbours. Standards of living etc. are about equal in both countries.

The difference: There has been a huge shift among the Hungarians towards nationalism and racism. And they absolutely refuse to regard themselves as part of Romania when living in Romania. How bad is it?
I've heard of a wedding in Romania: Two hungarians married. When the marriage was certified in the city-council, their relatives accompanied them and when everything was done, they sang the hungarian national anthem. Inside a romanian government-building and in front of romanian bureaucrats.

I think, a lot of the distrust was fueled by russian propaganda of the new ukrainian rulers being nazis and thieves. Now it has turned out that the situation is not that bad and could be solved with diplomacy, but the hard-core nationalists in eastern Ukraine don't want that.

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The continued shelling of civilians by Ukrainian forces is ethnic cleansing. [View all] another_liberal Jul 2014 OP

RT = Pure Bullshit eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1

Check AFP if you don't believe Le Pen said what is quoted here . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #5

No, I am going to reject pure bullshit for being pure bullshit. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #7

We are supposed to follow a Fascist like Le Pen? Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #14

very true Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #8

... according to RT...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #2

No one in the West cares malaise Jul 2014 #3

Yeah, too true . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #4

Is it still ethic cleansing if the rebels do it? DetlefK Jul 2014 #6

Don'tch know,... sendero Jul 2014 #9

Reminds me of Hungary and Romania. DetlefK Jul 2014 #11

rebels blow up bridges Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #10

At least none of that is "Propaganda," right? another_liberal Jul 2014 #38

What has your excerpt got to do with your claim of 'ethnic cleansing'? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #12

The murder and destruction caused by Kiev's offensive against ethnic Russians continues . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #15

I just read your link - from 'AboveTopSecret'!!! muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #18

Christ, Sir, Is that Site Still Around? Will Citing Sorcha Fal Be Next? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #20

Has been for a while, Sir maddezmom Jul 2014 #24

No main stream media in the West would cover such a story . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #21

Said the guy shilling for the butcher of Grozny. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #13

By which you mean . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #16

You, for Putin muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #17

Are you trying to call me a name? another_liberal Jul 2014 #19

The only thing I ever see you do here is cheer lead for Putin. What else ya got? NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #23

You seem to think that showing solidarity with the antifascist forces in eastern Ukraine PoliticalPothead Jul 2014 #27

You see what you want to see . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #37

Russia Today, the Fox News of international news. nt NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #22

Soviet Russians ethnically cleansed Crimea in 1944, they forced the Tatars at gunpoint onto Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #25

and not allowing the leaders of Crimea's Tatar community to come back home by bannishing them Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #26

"Ethnic cleansing"? Jenoch Jul 2014 #28

Russian and Ukrainian are distinct ethnic groups. And what you said is deeply bigoted. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #29

Please explain the "ethnic" differences to me. Jenoch Jul 2014 #30

Are you familiar with the concept of Russification? Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #31

Of course I am. Jenoch Jul 2014 #32

As I suspected, your argument confuses ethnicity with race. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #33

I'm not referring to a continent and dozens of countries. Jenoch Jul 2014 #34

Hence, we go back to Russification... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #35

'Russification' of Ukraine Jenoch Jul 2014 #36