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In reply to the discussion: What Does the Democratic Party Actually Believe? [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)44. Well ...
Health insurance expansion, not health care expansion. There is a difference.
I suspect that those previously denied access to healthcare, that now - because of the "health insurance expansion" - now have access, would disagree.
That is better than nothing, but it is not the reform we were promised.
Who promised you, what? I agree that the health insurance model should be a not-for-profit model; but this nation is a long way away from that ... the people are not ready for that big a change and government has not figured out how to do it without hurting the citizenry (in the short term).
The ACA allows states with their own exchanges to establish a single-payer model for healthcare financing ... how many states have acted? One! Doesn't that speak to the readiness of the people for the change?
And the state that is trying to establish single-payer ... Vermont ... is catching hell trying to figure out how to make it work.
But the benefit of typing your fantasy on the internet is you don't have to consider what others are thinking/willing to support AND you don't have to figure out how to make it actually work ... all you have to do is type.
{ETA: The ACA is an exemplar of how national programs should work ... an idea was developed, implemented and proved effective at the state level (Romney-care) ... That Massachusetts experiment was established on the national level (sans the problem areas proved in Massachusetts); while allowing the states to experiment with the next (and more desirable) healthcare financing scheme (Vermont's single-payer program). When/if Vermont is successful, it will/can be rolled out, nationally.
That is the most effective, least disruptive model for large-scale programmatic change.}
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Extra-judicial drone killings, War&MIC, Banks, Big Oil, Off-shoring, and spying on US citizens. n/t
PowerToThePeople
Jul 2014
#1
Yes Kucinich did in fact, but Obama in contrast to Clinton promised a public option
Dragonfli
Jul 2014
#42
Semantics? Really? "Any plan I sign must include" does not use the word veto but...
Dragonfli
Jul 2014
#45
what a shocking development, a president didn't get everything in legislation
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#46
I have been in several extended face-to-face arguments with mid-level bankers
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2014
#15
They are mad because they know he is right on the merits, and they have no argument.
bemildred
Jul 2014
#18
I can't imagine how they'd feel if a true progressive were in the White House.
stillwaiting
Jul 2014
#54
Harper appears to share many a view with my good friend Sid, that'd be my guess.
Dragonfli
Jul 2014
#31
No shit. When you're dismissing The Nation out of hand for it's agenda, it's probably time
Marr
Jul 2014
#66
C'mon, you can't expect "New Democrats" to be familiar with left-leaning publications.
Marr
Jul 2014
#67
no, the Clintonites are NOT the Democratic Party --- there are many anti-DLC/anti-Third Way
antigop
Jul 2014
#25
Your post conflates two separate entities - politicians and the Democratic Party.
sybylla
Jul 2014
#26
K&R / Until later when I may have time to comment. Good post X we need to discuss the elephant ITR
Dragonfli
Jul 2014
#30
Dem voters believe in liberal policies and fighting conservatives. DC dems believe in nothing.
Doctor_J
Jul 2014
#39
As far as I can tell, it believes in getting elected and then getting reelected, and anything
djean111
Jul 2014
#56
It believes that as long as the Repubs are awful they can win by being "Not as bad".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2014
#58