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In reply to the discussion: No Knock SWAT Raids [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)4. I had to laugh at Conservative's outrage over the Branch Dividian raid.
They were really upset that they would raid the place without knocking on the door and presenting a warrant. They were the people who forced through the No-Knock Warrant in the first place. They were outraged to discover it was not only being used againt those people.
I also remember when the law was being passed. A Democrat proposed an amendment. Republican after Republican took the podium to denounce the amendment. They mostly laughed at the amendment since it would completely invalidate the entire law. What would be the point of passing the law with an amendment that then cancels out the law? The amendment they denounced read:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Finally, a late arriving Republican took the podium to inform his fellow Republicans that this was a verbatim copy of the 4th Amendment, and that it might not be a good idea to tell everyone the law they were passing was in violation of the 4th Amendment.
So Republicans passed the law believing it was unconstitutional. Something they have done many times knowing they could score political points while the courts would prevent any real damage being done.
They did not realize the US Supreme Court had abandoned all pretense of enforcing the Constitution.
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not dismissive, just after 20 yrs you learn there is alway more to the story then is orginal stated
SCUBANOW
Jul 2014
#67
Again I can see you have other issues that have nothing to do with law enforement.
SCUBANOW
Jul 2014
#64
You don't mind risking getting your head blown off over a few bags of dope?
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#10
I hear some of those pot smoking drug kingpins have REALLY big toilets
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#16
Maybe our tax dollars have better things to do than send SWAT teams to arrest pot smokers
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#13
If the stash is so small that it can vanish in one flush, you screwed up as LEO.
aikoaiko
Jul 2014
#17
I don't believe there is a cop alive above rookie grade that does't know deep
ChisolmTrailDem
Jul 2014
#34
So they can flush all evidence if you give them 30 seconds to open the door before you bust it in?
killbotfactory
Jul 2014
#51
I guess it's okay, so long as they are "gang-members" and you only terrorize "urban" communities. nt
killbotfactory
Jul 2014
#52
End the stupid and utterly failed drug war and 99.9% of the danger evaporates.
TheKentuckian
Jul 2014
#45