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Dragonfli

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48. I merely posted his own words, the ones that convinced me to vote for him

Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:38 AM

Jul 2014

As you did not appear to remember them.

The discussion about what he claimed he would fight for and his very different starting position when the time actually came, as well as what he did and did not get that he insisted on is a rather large discussion that does not belong in a sub-thread.

What he insisted upon once elected and what he claimed he would insist upon previous to his election did change however. I realize you are not likely to admit to it (even to yourself) and so rather than argue pointlessly I will just accept that we disagree on what happened, but the events were recorded throughout the whole process and someday you really should look at the actual history rather than what you would like to believe.

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What Does the Democratic Party Actually Believe? [View all] xchrom Jul 2014 OP

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I merely posted his own words, the ones that convinced me to vote for him Dragonfli Jul 2014 #48

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