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21. that concern makes sense
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jul 2014

The way the visa works is that companies have a job opening and they solicit these foreign workers to fill that exact position and the worker is granted the visa. So, I can see where this proposal is sort of a back door and it makes sense that folks who argue against the visas in the first place can't support any more expansion of foreign workers.

Many H4 dependents, majority women, are consigned to being unemployed once they move to the U.S. In their home countries they were often high-earning, largely independent workers. But after moving to the U.S., they’re unable to work or even open an individual bank account. They’re ineligible to get a social security number and find it prohibitively difficult to get a driver’s license. Their rights have been compared with those of women living in some of the most oppressive parts of the world.

H1-B visa restrictions and financial dependency limits an H4 abuse victim from getting a divorce, alimony, or custody of children. Immigration laws render H4 spouses defenseless at the whims of their husbands, who have the power to change her status to an undocumented immigrant.

I would argue that if someone is good enough to import for their labor skills, at least have the decency to treat them and their family like you would anyone else. If you're going to allow a couple to come into the country and IF you're going to allow one of them to work, it makes sense to allow the other to work legally. If you don't, they'll probably work illegally, but having them here and not working isn't helpful. As long as they are here, the best thing for America is that they are being productive. It's best that they be doing something useful and then paying taxes like other workers.

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It seems that there has been no administration in my life time that has responded amandabeech Jul 2014 #1
The vast majority of undocumented immigrants upaloopa Jul 2014 #40
My experience is very different from yours. amandabeech Jul 2014 #47
Sorry I don't believe you. You give no facts upaloopa Jul 2014 #48
I prefer to hide my community's identity when I discuss this issue with amandabeech Jul 2014 #49
It was a Poison Pill the GOP pushed for FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #2
No, it was a poison pill both the GOP AND Obama pushed for brentspeak Jul 2014 #3
Which Republicans backed this? alp227 Jul 2014 #42
how is H1 visa bad but other immigration good? Travis_0004 Jul 2014 #4
I don't think immigration reform is quite the winner we think it is for the Democratic party. NOVA_Dem Jul 2014 #5
Undocumented immigrants don't compete for union jobs. upaloopa Jul 2014 #44
That shit might work on Republicans so take that elsewhere. Take your straw-man someplace else. NOVA_Dem Jul 2014 #50
No that's just getting out of the 1950s treestar Jul 2014 #6
this smells like an attempt to muddy the president's immigration efforts bigtree Jul 2014 #7
Kindly stuff your manufactured outrage brentspeak Jul 2014 #8
stuff your obvious bigotry bigtree Jul 2014 #9
"You're a bigot": The usual last refuge brentspeak Jul 2014 #10
wives shouldn't be allowed work visas bigtree Jul 2014 #13
I thought all those displaced American female programmers brentspeak Jul 2014 #15
I don't think they're just using the issue of H-1Bs as a wedge against immigration reform efforts bigtree Jul 2014 #16
Yes, I should instead be rah-rahing the administration's efforts brentspeak Jul 2014 #17
...^ that 840high Jul 2014 #38
What is your solution to the problem of the disappearance of well paying jobs pnwmom Jul 2014 #18
He doesn't have one - just the GOP position of giving away what last few good American jobs are left FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #32
Wrong - it increased H1B visas 400% FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #29
Thanks, I stand corrected brentspeak Jul 2014 #31
New H2B visas to take away construction jobs too FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #33
I am beginning to think it's no use. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #52
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #11
"Your loss is some socially-liberal but middle-class-destroying millionaire's gain." pa28 Jul 2014 #12
complaining because the president is offering the spouses of workers a chance to get jobs is bigotry bigtree Jul 2014 #14
The spouses should be able to get jobs on the same basis the original worker does. pnwmom Jul 2014 #19
that concern makes sense bigtree Jul 2014 #21
I don't understand the need for all those other restrictions -- having a bank account, for example, pnwmom Jul 2014 #25
it has to do with the government's requirement for documentation bigtree Jul 2014 #28
Those sound like obstacles that could and should be removed, pnwmom Jul 2014 #34
I think it's right on the mark as well Populist_Prole Jul 2014 #30
Don't you have something better to do? chowder66 Jul 2014 #20
Unrec. FSogol Jul 2014 #22
Some assumptions here whatthehey Jul 2014 #23
"Workers of the WORLD Unite!" Is still a damned good idea. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #24
+1 leftstreet Jul 2014 #26
What a bunch of crap Stargazer99 Jul 2014 #27
Your familiar negative posts about Obama and those nasty democrats. The record never changes. Pisces Jul 2014 #35
straight to trash this thread rbrnmw Jul 2014 #36
Yep, that's why I'm not a supporter of the Democrats current immigration reform Larkspur Jul 2014 #37
Sorry. 840high Jul 2014 #39
"I see this reform package as a way to help Wall Street increase it's ability to screw American..." OhioChick Jul 2014 #41
So all of these women and children seeking refuge on the border is just a Skidmore Jul 2014 #43
say it ain't so! Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #45
Why are all the silicon valley billionaires pushing for reform? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #46
That law is of the 1950s treestar Jul 2014 #51
K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #53
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