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Hassin Bin Sober

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55. Be careful what you wish for.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:18 PM
Jul 2014

Some of the biggest proponents of doing away with hosting were up to their eyeballs with the Locozollo types shutting down ANY criticism of The President of being off topic "on a Democratic board". And that included the President's position pre-marriage equality.

Any discussion of the usage of "poutrage" and "pony" was deemed meta and shut down. So much so that Skinner had to step in and say knock it off.

Lozocollo was banned for his super partisan shenanigans. So was grahm4anything. We just had another host thrown out of hosting for the same shenanigans - I won't mention his name because he is still technically a member. Though he hasn't posted since he was tossed. My suspicion is he moved on to his next zombie/sock... Every one of those disruptors had the same MO. - they shut down or tried to shut down ANY discussion critical of The President or the party. They made threats of retaliatory locks, horse traded via threat to leave truly disruptive posts if they didn't get their way and locked, unilaterally, posts when they couldn't get consensus. And some of the more vocal in these threads were right there skating around the edges having a laugh encouraging the disruptors.

If you hold a minority opinion on DU you may not like your "controversial" opinion getting shut down by the majority.

I have been in favor of leaving SOP alerts to the jury since, well, since I became a host and saw what's going on in there.. As long as it is the whole pool of eligible juries. If left up to the same 'pro lock' duers that have been camping out in hosts since du3 went live, I guarantee we won't be happy.




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kick Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #1
Thanks for the kick, BB! Sissyk Jul 2014 #3
Hey Sissyk. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #68
Things are good. Sissyk Jul 2014 #78
Join a group full of agenda fuled gossips who don't even enforce the SOP which is their only job? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #2
I'm sorry you feel that way, Bluenorthwest. Sissyk Jul 2014 #4
I am not speaking of contentious issues, I'm saying a group whose ONLY job is to enforce a simple Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #7
Correct. Sissyk Jul 2014 #9
And then trying to capture that mythical creature called consensus. Autumn Jul 2014 #12
I think I've seen more unicorns. Sissyk Jul 2014 #15
Recommended. All DUers should try hosting, Autumn Jul 2014 #5
Truth! Sissyk Jul 2014 #11
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy... SidDithers Jul 2014 #6
You and I disagree a lot. We used to disagree about the value of 'hosts'. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #8
I think you'd find that we agree on a lot more than we disagree on...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #28
I'm with you guys. BTDT. Frustrating beyond all belief. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #40
Be careful what you wish for. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #55
It's your choice Sissyk Jul 2014 #13
I'd suggest people volunteer a term or 2 on MIRT... SidDithers Jul 2014 #42
I agree with you there 100%. Sissyk Jul 2014 #45
I'm guilty of that. It's like a bio-rythm. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #71
That's for sure - TBF Jul 2014 #98
Absolutely, MIRT was a great experience. nt Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #56
Well, thanks Sid! I love you too! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #18
Just so you know, Hosting will be changing in the near future. William769 Jul 2014 #19
I replied to Number 23 a few days ago with some thoughts... SidDithers Jul 2014 #26
WE will see what happens. William769 Jul 2014 #29
Not for every forum. GD is special, but some of the others are working quite well. uppityperson Jul 2014 #30
GD is special... SidDithers Jul 2014 #33
I always get a juvenile kick out of writing "gd host" or not a gd host uppityperson Jul 2014 #37
At times, yes. Sissyk Jul 2014 #41
You're gd right about that! cyberswede Jul 2014 #64
Agreed Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #43
I agree with everything you've suggested. Sissyk Jul 2014 #81
I disagree. The problem isn't hosting, it's the lack of a clear vision on what that should entail. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #59
I'm for letting juries decide, too. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #80
I can see that for GD, but I wonder how well that would work for LBN. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #96
LBN is the one Forum that seems to work... SidDithers Jul 2014 #97
Oh hell no! Texasgal Jul 2014 #10
Thats fine and is your choice. Sissyk Jul 2014 #14
It should have been open read only from the start. kcr Jul 2014 #20
Well, looks like you get your wish. Sissyk Jul 2014 #22
We can only see the host threads if a host posts copies kcr Jul 2014 #25
Yes, if you are not a host somewhere in the great vastness that is DU, Sissyk Jul 2014 #27
When people only see the bad stuff kcr Jul 2014 #36
I disagree with you here. Sissyk Jul 2014 #39
I can't speak for everyone but I fail to see how hosting will improve my experience kcr Jul 2014 #46
And, that's up to you and it's a good thing. Sissyk Jul 2014 #48
BRING BACK THE MODS !! leftstreet Jul 2014 #16
What about the 100s of us that never had to Sissyk Jul 2014 #21
You think Mods were power freaks, but you weren't even here? leftstreet Jul 2014 #47
Where did I say mods were power freaks? Sissyk Jul 2014 #50
... leftstreet Jul 2014 #54
But where does that say I called them power freaks? Sissyk Jul 2014 #57
I never said you called them power freaks leftstreet Jul 2014 #67
Okay. Thanks for explaining. Sissyk Jul 2014 #73
You said this HangOnKids Jul 2014 #69
Please read the post to leftstreet Sissyk Jul 2014 #72
I have read the entire thread HangOnKids Jul 2014 #75
Okay. Sissyk Jul 2014 #76
wrong spot leftstreet Jul 2014 #52
Open and free, bigoted discussions. That's what we have here now. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #66
I hate open and free, bigoted discussions. Sissyk Jul 2014 #70
I don't think they'll go back to moderation. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #79
I agree with everything you said. eom Sissyk Jul 2014 #82
oh no thanks on that. The DU2 system had a lot of problems. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #85
Great Post Sissyk. William769 Jul 2014 #17
Thank you, William! Sissyk Jul 2014 #23
You are definitely on my friends list! William769 Jul 2014 #31
'Tis good, Bill! Sissyk Jul 2014 #34
Nice post and nice thought behind it steve2470 Jul 2014 #24
Thanks, steve! Sissyk Jul 2014 #32
Looking forward to working with you again too ! :) nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #38
There are lots of forums people can sign up on, not just gd. uppityperson Jul 2014 #35
Yes, there is too much drama at times. Sissyk Jul 2014 #44
As long as the SOP for GD remains meaningless theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #49
Yes, we know as host that there are many, many Sissyk Jul 2014 #53
Nope. I have never hosted GD theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #61
No, I don't think you should do that. Sissyk Jul 2014 #65
Thanks sissy, but I actually think I would be a horrible host for GD theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #74
lol! at your last paragraph! Sissyk Jul 2014 #77
it isn't meaningless, it is intentionally vague. Yes there is a difference. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #86
Hopefully that is one of the issues EarlG will address theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #89
I rather doubt it. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #93
With those "guidelines"... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #94
Yes people should give hosting and mirt a try. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #51
It is indeed that, justin! Sissyk Jul 2014 #62
Look foward to working with you. I think the sign up thread appears in the 17th. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #63
It's been three months already! Agschmid Jul 2014 #90
Yep. Much quieter therm than I expected. the next term will get busy for the election. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #95
Being a host is certainly a lesson in diplomacy! kentauros Jul 2014 #58
Thanks, kentauros. Sissyk Jul 2014 #60
I'd probably have to suggest that in ATA. kentauros Jul 2014 #91
Bless your heart. BainsBane Jul 2014 #83
Well, I'd say so far it's gone over pretty good. Sissyk Jul 2014 #84
Heheheh...No. Iggo Jul 2014 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #88
I'm a host in the Photo Group Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #92
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