you kind of have to ask yourself - "whose side is Obama on?"

[Douglas Carpenter]

56. yeah that's true. But what the hell else do we do?

Obviously it is not a choice anymore between liberals and progressives versus conservatives. It hard to view the political divide that way anymore. Even the Most honorable and Venerated Professor, Noam Chomsky said of Obama. He's not a progressive but at least he is somewhat grounded in the real world. So we have choice between corporate/military industrialist Democrats who are at least somewhat grounded in the real world and flat out insanity. When it is possible during the primaries I vote my conscience. But in the general election I will support the one who is at least somewhat grounded in the real world who is also significantly less likely to blow up the world. The last time I voted my conscience in a general election, Ronald Reagan ended up as President. Then twenty years later we faced an election in which I just didn't care that much and George W. Bush ended up as President. Twice bitten has made me awfully shy. I'm not inclined to make that tactical mistake again - ever.