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In reply to the discussion: In praise of bettyellen [View all]

DonCoquixote

(13,956 posts)
98. sad and weak
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jul 2014

"No one is responsible for those time outs, except for the ones in time out."

So, in the aformentioned bit, where someone deliberately used a slur meant against Jews, Betty ellen is responsible for NOT condemning that, or for revealing that said person did not have the hammer dropped on them?

And of course, the people that insult women and minortiies are not responsible, they should just bne tolerated because it is their man-given right to do so, tos be damned?

If "understanding" this system is to turn a blind eye to the FACT that certain people do offensive things and never get punished, than no, I do nto understand it. However, do not be surprised if you have to understand that we can and will have every right to refuse to be abused; that we do not have to bow down to the MRAs or others because they have shown a willingness to bully, and a complete indifference to those they consider not their peers.

There is a cliche, to lead,follow or get out of the way. I, and the feminists are not asking others to follow, we would rather walk with people. However, as for all these angry dudes that are unhappy that they are no longer the default setting for "BOSS", no they do NOT get to lead automatically, and if they dislike that, they can get out of our way.

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In praise of bettyellen [View all] Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 OP
she argued vigorously against a troll who mocked our outrage at Hobby Lobby CreekDog Jul 2014 #1
she has called out a lot of the crap that goes on JI7 Jul 2014 #15
DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2014 #2
She is a strong and passionate woman! PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #3
I'll second that! William769 Jul 2014 #4
what the heck happened there, William 769? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #20
Heh, just gave that OP a rec. UtahLib Jul 2014 #22
Thanks, and agree. William769 Jul 2014 #27
I missed that. Kali Jul 2014 #26
Yep I got the shitty end of the stick. William769 Jul 2014 #28
interesting in a couple of ways Kali Jul 2014 #35
Yeah. I wonder what was going on that night? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #55
They are, really. Then the host trying to right the ship so to speak boston bean Jul 2014 #79
I see it that way, too. You are NOT Alone. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #87
'Depreciation' Thread is the one that gets to stay? It looks insane, all of it. freshwest Jul 2014 #59
I think, at that point, the parties involved... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #63
! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #86
oh I know Kali Jul 2014 #95
well, I don't know, Kali. I honestly can not tell the difference any more. Talk about Blurred Lines. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #96
Trickery lives here. I have seen it. eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #111
To be fair I locked most of those not VC. Agschmid Jul 2014 #29
A shitty job is a shitty job, whoever does it. nt William769 Jul 2014 #31
Well at least be annoyed with the right person. Agschmid Jul 2014 #32
I am, I know who locked that thread it's there for all to see. William769 Jul 2014 #33
Ok. Agschmid Jul 2014 #34
Why did you all lock it? BainsBane Jul 2014 #45
You are right it's not always fair. Agschmid Jul 2014 #46
He and I have had our share of disputes BainsBane Jul 2014 #48
Well I think we do still share the same ideals (you and me)... Can't speak for him. Agschmid Jul 2014 #50
I guess I expected a response to my pm about the hide BainsBane Jul 2014 #51
I don't really think I had a good reason, hence the apology via PM. Agschmid Jul 2014 #54
I'll get over it BainsBane Jul 2014 #56
In case you missed it, I sincerely appreciate your efforts to change the tone in the hosts forum. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #52
I saw that, thank you. Agschmid Jul 2014 #53
I just gave it a rec too. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #37
It was locked almost within minutes. It went bye bye really quick. William769 Jul 2014 #39
Gave it a Rec too. Also missed it. Have a good weekend! freshwest Jul 2014 #102
Hi William. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #44
As I'm the host that locked that particular one, are you referring to me as 'Miss Innocent Dupe'? Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #73
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #83
Righteous!... SidDithers Jul 2014 #85
! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #88
+1... SidDithers Jul 2014 #80
To bettyellen! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #5
She just let her anger get the best of her Marrah_G Jul 2014 #6
no, that's not what got her flagged, a few BS hides did CreekDog Jul 2014 #9
bettyellen... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #7
Yes, I love all she writes. And she has been outstanding in her recent posts. freshwest Jul 2014 #60
She was fearless freshwest. eom sheshe2 Jul 2014 #62
Agreed. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #112
She and folks like her are why I keep coming back to DU. thucythucy Jul 2014 #8
I received a PM from her this morning. She's reading the thread Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #93
Absolutely! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #10
We miss you, bettyellen! BainsBane Jul 2014 #11
For years and years I have MuseRider Jul 2014 #12
I love BettyEllen! bravenak Jul 2014 #13
yes JI7 Jul 2014 #14
bettyellen rocks MadrasT Jul 2014 #16
seabeyond says... I raise my glass to her, TOO. nt Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #17
I'm in, too = Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #18
k/r Solly Mack Jul 2014 #19
Toasting to bettyellen~ Cha Jul 2014 #21
Love her! Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #23
Yes to bettyellen. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #24
I'm definitely a bettyellen fan! She's absolutely an asset to this website. R B Garr Jul 2014 #25
What is up with onecaliberal Jul 2014 #30
This is a long thread but really worth the read DURHAM D Jul 2014 #36
Thanks for that. onecaliberal Jul 2014 #97
well, bettyellen "misspoke" a bit there in that thread. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #114
Well Warren, you are a GD Host DURHAM D Jul 2014 #116
because people seem to be having fun Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #119
:shrug: WillyT Jul 2014 #38
Did you really miss the whole thing? DURHAM D Jul 2014 #42
I got my first hide in about two years in that thread, too. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #40
Sometimes it's worth it to say the things that need to be said... SidDithers Jul 2014 #82
It's true. I've added it to my journal. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #84
Rec GP6971 Jul 2014 #41
She's a keeper! Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #43
so we kick out Betty DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #47
+1 BainsBane Jul 2014 #57
That's sad and weak. pintobean Jul 2014 #74
I think that DonCoQ understands our self-moderating system quite well, Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #77
woot Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #90
and can tell the difference between what is unpopular BainsBane Jul 2014 #110
sad and weak DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #98
It's also interesting to observe that a number of those recently PPR'd BainsBane Jul 2014 #100
Not from lack of alerts pintobean Jul 2014 #106
also, thanks for revealing this: DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #99
Do you intentionally misunderstand things? pintobean Jul 2014 #104
+2 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #76
SEXIEST POST EVER. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #89
Here's to bettyellen! theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #58
Cheers to her! XemaSab Jul 2014 #61
I like bettyellen! herding cats Jul 2014 #64
DU's whistleblower. joshcryer Jul 2014 #65
Brilliant observation! BainsBane Jul 2014 #67
I refuse to say " Thumbdrives for liberty"nt bravenak Jul 2014 #68
You have to admit the irony is delicious BainsBane Jul 2014 #69
Oh, i admit it, it is truely illuminating. bravenak Jul 2014 #70
as I related to another exile Seabeyond DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #101
Ooh, that's good... SidDithers Jul 2014 #78
K&R for bettyellen nt UtahLib Jul 2014 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Jul 2014 #71
k and r BainsBane Jul 2014 #72
Cheers! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #75
I really like bettyellen. boston bean Jul 2014 #81
Cheers IronLionZion Jul 2014 #91
Way to go bettyellen! egduj Jul 2014 #92
<<<< Attn= Gormy Cuss* and Everyone in this thread Sincerely From bettyellen* >>>> Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #94
Kick. I like that bettyellen woman! Squinch Jul 2014 #103
Kick and Rec! zappaman Jul 2014 #105
Group W? pintobean Jul 2014 #107
Whatever it's called, she plays a mean cowbell!! PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #108
True, but zappaman Jul 2014 #109
Hang in there BE! littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #113
betty, i am sprung free, adn i gotta tell you. the last coupe weeks you have taught me so much. seabeyond Jul 2014 #115
Hey sea, welcome back. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #117
hey durham, thank you.... seabeyond Jul 2014 #120
Hell yeah! In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #118
I like 'er fine. Iggo Jul 2014 #121
K&R Jamastiene Jul 2014 #122
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