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1. That study is STILL garbage

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:37 PM

Jul 2014

Bad statistics, cherry-picked data, incomplete release of raw data, bad design. You name it, it's just terrible science. And on top of all that the story in the OP's link makes a big to-do about how the study passed another "stringent peer review". It did no such thing. The journal that republished it says so:

ESEU conducted no scientific peer review, (editor-in-chief Henner Hollert) adds, “because this had already been conducted by (the first publishing journal) Food and Chemical Toxicology"

http://www.nature.com/news/paper-claiming-gm-link-with-tumours-republished-1.15463

Gilles-Eric Séralini is a fringe crank that pumps out these bogus studies to pimp his pop-science anti-gmo books. He makes far more money from his anti-gmo advocacy than any alleged bought-and-paid-for scientist makes doing real science that happens to benefit industry positions.

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Republished study: GMO Corn Can Cause Damage to Liver and Kidneys, and Severe Hormonal Disruption [View all] G_j Jul 2014 OP

That study is STILL garbage mathematic Jul 2014 #1

ROFL... SidDithers Jul 2014 #2

Is it just me or is "Alternet" getting worse and worse? snooper2 Jul 2014 #3

Sadly, science reporting on the left is almost as bad as it is on the right...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #4

On this I must agree. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #26

I've never trusted their content Bonx Jul 2014 #16

wow G_j Jul 2014 #5

No, we've just seen this garbage posted several times already...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #6

ROFL G_j Jul 2014 #8

You're the one characterizing this as a major study... SidDithers Jul 2014 #9

If one guys can pay so much then wisechoice Jul 2014 #38

I think it's partly that "where's our jetpacks? their absence means SOMEBODY is to blame!" MisterP Jul 2014 #13

gawd I wish this nonsense would die permanently.... mike_c Jul 2014 #7

It won't... SidDithers Jul 2014 #10

You have a point. Since GMO corn is used so widely, Damansarajaya Jul 2014 #35

"We" didn't see the increase in obesity, diabetes and cancer? KurtNYC Jul 2014 #42

Hmmm . . . good data. I'm not a GMO fan. Damansarajaya Jul 2014 #45

Soda is GMO corn (HFCS) which is designed to be loaded with most easily absorbed sugar -- fructose KurtNYC Jul 2014 #47

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #15

I thought I had read the rats were predisposed to tumors! MohRokTah Jul 2014 #27

Alan McHughen frustrated_lefty Jul 2014 #31

Yay! More crappy science!! jeff47 Jul 2014 #11

Nailed it... SidDithers Jul 2014 #12

Do critics of this publication have evidence that current testing standards are optimal? Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #14

Do you have evidence that they aren't? jeff47 Jul 2014 #19

Any study showing long term effects of wisechoice Jul 2014 #39

Yes. It's called everyone around you. jeff47 Jul 2014 #46

It appears you have not read either the article or the study: Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #50

The study's sample size was too small to make heads or tails out of the data. Avalux Jul 2014 #17

They should redo the study... SidDithers Jul 2014 #18

How about wisechoice Jul 2014 #43

But . . . how does that herbicide affect humans? Petrushka Jul 2014 #20

It affects them poorly. Pesticides also affect humans poorly. jeff47 Jul 2014 #21

Wow, what excellent advice for systemic pesticides! /sarcasm appal_jack Jul 2014 #23

That sounds serious Babel_17 Jul 2014 #25

Here is one on neonics & bird declines: appal_jack Jul 2014 #28

Here's some discussion of problems from using RoundUp to dry down wheat: appal_jack Jul 2014 #29

RoundUp Ready GMO's contributing to Monarch decline: appal_jack Jul 2014 #30

RoundUp & its adjuvants killing amphibians: appal_jack Jul 2014 #32

Neonic pesticides implicated in bat die-offs: appal_jack Jul 2014 #33

Extinction is indeed serious. appal_jack Jul 2014 #34

I only buy non-Monsanto altered products Babel_17 Jul 2014 #36

I agree about rational choice vs. intrinsic opposition. appal_jack Jul 2014 #49

So change the subject, and then attack the strawman for changing the subject. jeff47 Jul 2014 #44

Good Luck with your Monarchs coming back, appal jack! Thanks for your posts not promoting Cha Jul 2014 #48

serious buisiness.. G_j Jul 2014 #22

The truth: Seralini is the Andrew Wakefield of biology. alp227 Jul 2014 #24

Tracing back the source it goes to this...http://www.elsevier.com/ Rex Jul 2014 #37

The Seralini study was originallyh published in the Elsevier journal Food and Chemical Toxicology... SidDithers Jul 2014 #40

Okay thanks, yeah they wouldn't retract anything factual or I wouldn't think so. Rex Jul 2014 #41