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TheBlackAdder

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185. They are almost unheard of in Metro NY/Philly. What makes this area different?

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:08 PM

Jul 2014

My area has the high levels of physically impaired, high cancer rates, high autism, high ADD/ADHD, etc.

There sees to be a social or regional acceptance for using leashes that is absent in my area.

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Sure, kids will accept whatever is thrust upon them, as some who are abused, live in squalid conditions, etc. find that their upbringing was fine. But, deep down inside, there might be the hidden humiliation that the child goes though when they are placed in awkward situations or ones that differ from others.

It is true that generalizations do not account for rare circumstances, but there sure does seem to be a lot of DUers who find their use acceptable and even promote their use, when there apparently (as in the fact that the tens of millions in Metro NY/Philly don't use them) isn't a need for them.

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Leashed kids in the mall. [View all] trumad Jul 2014 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Jul 2014 #1

I used to think so too but bad things can happen so quickly. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #2

stroller notadmblnd Jul 2014 #5

kids need exercise too CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #17

Plus many are paper trained. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #111

one stroller with pedals Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #20

Wonder how much this pedaled stroller costs? vankuria Jul 2014 #109

Price in a seach come up between Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #126

Kids can be stolen from strollers. nt valerief Jul 2014 #81

usually the ones on leashes are the same ones that will not stay in a stroller lunasun Jul 2014 #105

You convince an energetic 2 or 3 year old they want to ride in a stroller. dflprincess Jul 2014 #211

All kids are different gollygee Jul 2014 #213

they sometimes want out of the stroller too 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #301

Like any tool, they can be used well or misused. It drives me nuts to see kids in strollers uppityperson Jul 2014 #3

I disagree notadmblnd Jul 2014 #7

Many years ago, when my kid was 3, I was in London with him cali Jul 2014 #72

+1 !! exactly used in different sports = good point lunasun Jul 2014 #107

Why not? laundry_queen Jul 2014 #91

Righht on!!! Lurker Deluxe Jul 2014 #133

it is a very good place to exercise Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #153

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #171

And I put a bark collar on my kid so when they yelled, they'd get a zap and learn to shut up uppityperson Jul 2014 #188

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #190

What, you think the child is supposed to be in control? moriah Jul 2014 #192

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #196

omg, I am so ashamed that I "controlled" my child!! uppityperson Jul 2014 #194

Did you walk to the library? cyberswede Jul 2014 #195

I had to change out the chain choke collar for a leather one in the library because of the noise uppityperson Jul 2014 #198

Quiet in the library, please! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #214

stroller. i could not do that one. restriction of freedom and exploration. seabeyond Jul 2014 #4

I don't think anything is wrong with that Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #6

I'm getting ready to buy one for my grandson..... hedgehog Jul 2014 #8

ya. especially if you are older. true that. got a puppy. first time out, without leash, seabeyond Jul 2014 #10

Nothing new. I have a photo of myself, taken in 1949 MineralMan Jul 2014 #9

Your post is worthless without pictures!! madinmaryland Jul 2014 #57

My damned scanner is broken. MineralMan Jul 2014 #60

Lighten up Francis taterguy Jul 2014 #289

I, too, cannot understand how you could post antiquie Jul 2014 #63

Sadly, I don't have that photo in digital form. But here's another one, when I was six MineralMan Jul 2014 #74

Ooh, a real cutie antiquie Jul 2014 #78

Mischief? Perish the thought... MineralMan Jul 2014 #167

I'm not gonna lie. Rod Beauvex Jul 2014 #93

LOL. Either would do, for sure. MineralMan Jul 2014 #168

I recognize that bolo tie! MrsMatt Jul 2014 #197

Too cool! MineralMan Jul 2014 #204

I recall one from way back then. I can't remember it being used much, but now I remember it, as I RKP5637 Jul 2014 #84

your post with reflection had great image painted with words lunasun Jul 2014 #110

How nice of you to say that. MineralMan Jul 2014 #180

They were leather, some of them, with buckles, and not at all uncommon. MADem Jul 2014 #113

Yes. I've never really understood the objections. MineralMan Jul 2014 #182

All of those "handfuls" of days gone by were lucky kids! MADem Jul 2014 #202

True. We had enormous freedom as children MineralMan Jul 2014 #205

The child leash then is much older than I thought left is right Jul 2014 #311

Wouldn't it be something if every small child had the same temperament and impulse control? Tikki Jul 2014 #11

+1000! The caretaker should do whatever it takes to keep the child safe TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #65

BINGO laundry_queen Jul 2014 #94

Exactly! Well said! City Lights Jul 2014 #117

I wouldn't take any 2 or 3 year old to a crowded venue without one. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #12

Big international airports--OMG.... I can CERTAINLY see why parents might want to use leashes hlthe2b Jul 2014 #37

I'm totally with you on that one, especially with more than one child. Laffy Kat Jul 2014 #59

I saw a little kid about three take off sprinting for the door at a hospital awhile back. His mom brewens Jul 2014 #13

Yep, Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #144

Isn't strapping a kid in a stroller even more restrictive? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #14

It's a cultural thing. Igel Jul 2014 #102

Why the need to take them to the mall?? retread Jul 2014 #15

Presumably the family needs clothes. nt LeftyMom Jul 2014 #16

Only malls have clothes? No locally owned stores? retread Jul 2014 #155

All the "local" clothing stores here sell size 00 twee dresses and 70 dollar t shirts. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #201

What is wrong with taking them to the mall? nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #18

You have to put your young children on leashes. retread Jul 2014 #156

You say that as if it is a problem. It is not. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #223

1. To buy stuff. 2. You don't have to worry about them running into traffic. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #21

why not? it is cheap entertainment for a little one. acitivty. stimulation. social interacting. seabeyond Jul 2014 #23

Never too early to teach the little ones American-style consumption. retread Jul 2014 #157

seriously? saying to the person that hates shopping and hates spending more. right. seabeyond Jul 2014 #164

Saying to the person that says it is cheap entertainment, etc. retread Jul 2014 #165

activity. stimulation. social interacting. yes. a world of listening, seeing, learning and having seabeyond Jul 2014 #169

Taking a young child to the mall for entertainment is barely a notch above parking them in retread Jul 2014 #174

you do not know what you are talking about or just looking for a fight. either way, not interested seabeyond Jul 2014 #175

For many places, the mall has been comparable to town square. People go there to socialize, uppityperson Jul 2014 #208

tell me you don't have kids snooper2 Jul 2014 #284

How else does mom go shopping. MineralMan Jul 2014 #25

The mall is the only place mom can shop? What happened to locally owned stores. What a strange, retread Jul 2014 #158

Aren't some of the stores at the mall locally owned? agentS Jul 2014 #176

You may be correct. I don't go to malls. I wonder how they can afford the monthly nut? Malls retread Jul 2014 #181

I don't know. You'd have to ask her. MineralMan Jul 2014 #179

You did ask how else is mom to go shopping? retread Jul 2014 #184

She'd probably use the harness wherever she went. MineralMan Jul 2014 #187

Why does "need" come into play? City Lights Jul 2014 #118

Never too early to train the little ones to be a good consumer is it. retread Jul 2014 #159

Sometimes people go to the mall without buying anything. nt City Lights Jul 2014 #162

That's where the shopping is. Iggo Jul 2014 #131

Not all parents have a support system avebury Jul 2014 #152

If a town is large enough to support a mall, it is large enough to have many retread Jul 2014 #161

Size of town is not the issue. The point that I am making avebury Jul 2014 #178

Other people don't need your permission gollygee Jul 2014 #216

Because you have to get stuff? gollygee Jul 2014 #215

I took my daughter to Disney a couple years ago... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #19

Would you also unstrap and remove kids from strollers, so they can also roam free? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #26

Children are not animals... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #28

You ever see a kid after they get hit by a car or fall down the stairs? CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #29

As a parent, it is our job to WATCH our kids... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #34

Yep, damned parent had the nerve to turn their head Live and Learn Jul 2014 #42

+1 nt laundry_queen Jul 2014 #98

Oh, I don't know. Putting in an invisible fence and shock collar on my kids worked wonders for uppityperson Jul 2014 #61

Oh, I just saw you in the news gvstn Jul 2014 #233

Holding their hand isn't necessarily better gollygee Jul 2014 #238

or heard the screams and wails of a child whose foot is caught in an escalator? hlthe2b Jul 2014 #39

That kid is BACK on the escalator again. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #43

Wow, that is so fucking funny. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #86

my daughter knows to hold my hand when in parking lots snooper2 Jul 2014 #285

As mentioned upthread, not all kids are the same. laundry_queen Jul 2014 #97

My daughter has autism... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #112

I guess we all just have to admit you are a superior parent to the rest of us. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #114

foot, not hand snooper2 Jul 2014 #286

YOUR child with autism isn't someone else's laundry_queen Jul 2014 #115

Thank you and exactly. I am amazed at the attitudes. n/t Butterbean Jul 2014 #125

Exactly. I must be on ignore, or else he's just ignoring me uppityperson Jul 2014 #132

^^^^ This^^^^ TY laundry queen. WTF gets into some people? Hekate Jul 2014 #314

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Jul 2014 #124

Bravo, laundry_queen phylny Jul 2014 #172

Get Real! It is for the safety of the kids dem in texas Jul 2014 #22

I've done enough baby sitting for my toddler nephews BainsBane Jul 2014 #24

Or if you are very pregnant with a running toddler laundry_queen Jul 2014 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #27

And who are YOU to question a DUer's desire to return? Your post ought to be self-deleted. Shame hlthe2b Jul 2014 #40

OK. On second thoughts, welcome back Trumad, and keep 'em coming (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #46

Shouldn't a reply be relevant to the post? Live and Learn Jul 2014 #45

OK, self-deleted (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #47

Very nice. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #49

I draw the line at choke chains. bluedigger Jul 2014 #30

how about pinch collars? KinMd Jul 2014 #69

I actually use a Martingale style collar for my dog. bluedigger Jul 2014 #75

I was using one of those pipi_k Jul 2014 #231

Nice looking harness. bluedigger Jul 2014 #241

Not just a good idea, it should be MANDATORY, IMHO. TheMightyFavog Jul 2014 #31

How about a toddler with mom holding his hand MineralMan Jul 2014 #32

Or, ir you have a really tall... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #92

My friend's daughter got her shoulder dislocated at age 2 years. Hekate Jul 2014 #315

We have a kid who, as a toddler, would vanish in an eyeblink. hunter Jul 2014 #33

Nothing wrong with it, depending on the child. Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #35

2 of my kids were mercuryblues Jul 2014 #68

I would rather see leashed kids (as long as they aren't dragged by said leash) than... moriah Jul 2014 #36

Before leashes, kids were tied together with ropes thelordofhell Jul 2014 #38

I had a few near misses with my boys Mz Pip Jul 2014 #41

My Mom had me on a leash and harness in the mid 1940s, but MineralMan Jul 2014 #44

+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #48

My mom did this with my brother in the eary 60s too. sufrommich Jul 2014 #50

Apparently, those harnesses and leashes MineralMan Jul 2014 #54

Or parents who think their kids should be abe to walk sufrommich Jul 2014 #64

Yes, I've seen that, too, along with a parent MineralMan Jul 2014 #66

Leading strings,weren't they called? Eom catrose Jul 2014 #274

"We will stay here until pigs fly, HockeyMom Jul 2014 #51

The two are not mutually exclusive. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #56

I think I need to start using a leash for my son when we are out in public. mysuzuki2 Jul 2014 #52

My 3-year old on a leash enlightenment Jul 2014 #53

Excellent explanation. I was like your child. MineralMan Jul 2014 #58

Thank you. Warpy Jul 2014 #96

Someone extremely passive-agressinve doesn't like you: Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #55

That's stretching the definition of trolling to new heights. sufrommich Jul 2014 #67

If we locked all such threads, this place would be dead. lol Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #73

Heights? I thought it was a new low. (n/t) Lefta Dissenter Jul 2014 #76

I have a sneaking suspicion I know that alerter BainsBane Jul 2014 #77

So much depends on the individual kid. I had a friend who, at 3 y.o., caught a ferry ride Hekate Jul 2014 #62

Was her mom's hair completely gray after that? sufrommich Jul 2014 #70

Probably! Hekate Jul 2014 #82

offer to watch them while mom(s) shops Kali Jul 2014 #71

+ one zillion nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #101

I think leashes are wonderful. It shows the parent cares enough about the kid valerief Jul 2014 #79

Dogs are put on leashes to protect them from harm Mariana Jul 2014 #236

+1 gollygee Jul 2014 #242

No, no. It is to dehumanize them. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #268

+1 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #290

I'm OK with leashes. All it takes is a brief moment of inattention and the kid(s) could be gone. nt RKP5637 Jul 2014 #80

They are useful in situations like that. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #83

My mother in law JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #85

One of my earliest memories Cirque du So-What Jul 2014 #87

My son got away from me one time when he was about 4 steve2470 Jul 2014 #88

IMNHO.... nothing wrong with it whistler162 Jul 2014 #89

our experience - - Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #90

I've seen it since the 1950s Warpy Jul 2014 #95

Some kids really do need leashes! Quantess Jul 2014 #99

Yep�I remember the glares mindfulNJ Jul 2014 #103

Is this another damn appreciation thread? Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #104

pet peeve> kids running around unattended or worse just ignored (The Unleashed) lunasun Jul 2014 #106

I think people need to worry less about how others parent their kids, so long as the children are MADem Jul 2014 #108

Pretty much my thought. The video of that mom dragging her kid by a leash, though.... moriah Jul 2014 #116

There are always dumb parents--and sometimes, kids can be irritating and young parents MADem Jul 2014 #120

Better safe than sorry. City Lights Jul 2014 #119

I always laugh greytdemocrat Jul 2014 #121

Yeah, I used to sit there and judge people's parenting choices without knowing their situation too. Butterbean Jul 2014 #122

Beaut! MerryBlooms Jul 2014 #151

My grandson has high-functioning autism & I got him a backpack leash after the 1st trip out in ... ebayfool Jul 2014 #189

My younger nephew preferred his leash to a stroller. politicat Jul 2014 #123

It is all fun and games Kurska Jul 2014 #127

I'm astonished by the responses that are posted here, at DU. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #128

I always watched my son like a hawk when I went out, except for the one time I did not... steve2470 Jul 2014 #129

And, in retrospect, each time you would now harness him? nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #136

I might steve2470 Jul 2014 #138

My two were, and with proper skills that burden was removed and the children will benefit later on. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #140

sincerely, I'm glad you were able to find that solution nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #145

It requires about 2-3 weeks of change, to all family members. Simple tricks and methods. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #148

I am glad you learned how to manage your children without continuing to verbally abuse them. However uppityperson Jul 2014 #150

What worked for me are industry standard best practices and works in most every home. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #154

And I see everyone's situation as unique. It may have similarities, but still is unique. uppityperson Jul 2014 #160

Not in the grand scheme of things. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #163

Mine was always very well behaved but I still used one. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #234

I think you are talking about much older children than I am. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #264

I've seen a first grader sporting a harness at my mall a couple of years back. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #270

I had no idea that first graders were wearing reins. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #299

Wow. Butterbean Jul 2014 #130

Yep. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #135

Sounds like those skills worked well for you & your 4 children. Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #177

They are almost unheard of in Metro NY/Philly. What makes this area different? TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #185

Some circumstances may be unique to a particular child or family: Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #203

That was a much different time. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #221

As a general rule 'leashes' should not be used in congested areas. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #141

With adaptive parenting skills, the easy way out is without having to use a leash or a stroller. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #142

I'm not sure what you meant. Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #261

Folks up my way don't use leashes. I maintained complete control using... TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #262

when a kid starts pulling too hard on a leash do you give it a little tug tug? snooper2 Jul 2014 #287

Jury results pintobean Jul 2014 #143

Thanks Pintobean. I knew it would get flagged since I challenged parental behavior. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #146

I was not on the jury but I would have avebury Jul 2014 #166

As a single parent, I took my kids everywhere. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #173

Just because the use of leashes avebury Jul 2014 #186

Distress and Quiet Humiliation are two different things. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #193

Having a toddler connected to a parent by a strap is not "quiet humiliation" in most cases. uppityperson Jul 2014 #200

"Quiet humiliation" avebury Jul 2014 #206

The whole family isn't portrayed well. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #212

You continue to judge without knowledge of the facts and what toddler could perceive uppityperson Jul 2014 #220

Which facts are they? I have seen NO justification for them, other than parent's needs. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #222

Use of a leash isn't humiliating, brow beating, or being told they're stupid or lazy gollygee Jul 2014 #239

Just because you chose to handle it that way gollygee Jul 2014 #219

The kid is 'happier' on the leash, because that's the alternate option presented to them. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #224

Not all kids respond to simple corrective behavioral techniques the same gollygee Jul 2014 #237

Our second challenged us. The youngest challenged authority at all levels - all the time. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #243

Yeah but the thing is gollygee Jul 2014 #245

You act like you are helpless and have no control over your kids at all. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #249

She was 2 years old. gollygee Jul 2014 #251

...and she overpowered your hand. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #253

No I wasn't distracted gollygee Jul 2014 #254

I'm sorry. I would have bent down, redirected her anger, and if that failed picked her up. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #257

I did not lose attentiveness gollygee Jul 2014 #258

Our toddler was happy free range too, even as cars SCREECHED TO A STOP to save her life Faryn Balyncd Jul 2014 #283

Aisles, not isles. MrsMatt Jul 2014 #210

A dropped key when typing invokes an English critique. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #229

There is nothing dehumanizing about a leash gollygee Jul 2014 #218

Maybe it's some kind of urban evolutionary thing... hunter Jul 2014 #225

Could be. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #230

Here's an idea... pipi_k Jul 2014 #226

There are several categories of child behavior, each requires slightly different methods, but.. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #240

OK, I was hoping for a solution for pipi_k Jul 2014 #291

That is a solution. You shouldn't be such a defeatist. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #307

LOL laundry_queen Jul 2014 #297

LOL? You obviously have young kids. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #306

No, my older 2 kids are now teens laundry_queen Jul 2014 #312

A patient answer .... Hekate Jul 2014 #316

I assume you find diapers vile, dehumanizing and inexcusable too? Live and Learn Jul 2014 #228

Oh, the Quiet Humiliation of toddlers in diapers. If only the parents went to a coach and counseling uppityperson Jul 2014 #232

A toddler is between one and three. Many kids are in leashes until they are well past 5. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #246

I've only seen them with toddlers gollygee Jul 2014 #248

Because in NY/NJ/Eastern PA, they aren't used. What's different in less congested areas? TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #252

I am talking about toddlers. Stop telling me I am pretending, stop insulting me and assuming uppityperson Jul 2014 #250

I see more than toddlers using them, so it's not just toddlers that have leashes. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #256

The vast majority, including me, are writing about toddlers. If you want to include older kids, uppityperson Jul 2014 #267

trumad was referring to 4 & 5 year-olds too. Also, toddlers congesting the floor of a busy mall? TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #272

You didn't what age Trumad was referring to until right before your last post. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #276

Try again. Bee my post at 11:35 PM, versus Trumad's 12:14AM post. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #305

I thought you said they aren't used in your area? Live and Learn Jul 2014 #269

I said in 20 years I've seen them used about 6 times. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #271

And it is pretty repugnant to read your intolerance Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #247

Perform a Critical Read of that post. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #259

You know exactly what you were implying - Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #282

+++++++ uppityperson Jul 2014 #288

I do know, and your assessment is completely wrong. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #308

And it continues. Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #313

I had a harness (I'm 60) when I was little and so did my sons Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2014 #134

This thread isn't going to work TBF Jul 2014 #137

When I was a toddler, my mom had a white leather harness LibertyLover Jul 2014 #139

My daughter was a toddler when James Bulger was abducted and murdered... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #147

Tell me about it. Octafish Jul 2014 #149

I wore a harness and leash... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #170

Their kids. They can do whatever they want. bigwillq Jul 2014 #183

It seems no matter what one mrs_p Jul 2014 #191

I'm with you, Trumad. cheapdate Jul 2014 #199

That was probably in the days when avebury Jul 2014 #209

Actually, it wasn't in the "old days". cheapdate Jul 2014 #235

I think that a lot of problems develop when avebury Jul 2014 #244

Kinda bothers me too... AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #207

Both are abjections of parental responsibility, whatever is easier for the 'adult'. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #227

I love your posts in this thread trumad Jul 2014 #281

Hypothetical situation in which pipi_k Jul 2014 #292

Well, you know, "supervision takes effort" uppityperson Jul 2014 #294

Hah! pipi_k Jul 2014 #296

I've been there too, as a single parent. Stop making parenting so difficult. It isn't. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #309

Yep. I agree. AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #300

Good for them ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2014 #217

I would not say anything unless I know the whole story. RandySF Jul 2014 #255

Trumad, about how old were the kids? gollygee Jul 2014 #260

trumad has not replied to any comments in this thread. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #265

My apologies for that. trumad Jul 2014 #279

4 to 5 trumad Jul 2014 #266

Well they are grown now--- trumad Jul 2014 #280

I admit I strolled through quickly Silver Swan Jul 2014 #263

In other news, trumad is back. n/t flvegan Jul 2014 #273

Leashes, strollers whatever the case, rudolph the red Jul 2014 #275

leashes are OK DBoon Jul 2014 #277

I would rather see a kid on a leash than a kid struck by a car Kalidurga Jul 2014 #278

Plus the kid hit by a car... pipi_k Jul 2014 #293

that almost happened to me Kalidurga Jul 2014 #317

I usually hope the parents are doing the correct thing. I mean, some children... BlueJazz Jul 2014 #295

We HAD to restrain my sister with a littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #298

I've never seen that before.. 2banon Jul 2014 #302

Orlando trumad Jul 2014 #303

Oh yeah.. security. never know when some "stand your ground" nut job will decide to 2banon Jul 2014 #304

I think I was among the first generation if parents using leashes (my kirks are both in their )30s left is right Jul 2014 #310