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In reply to the discussion: Trigger Warning - Teen Girl Drugged, Raped At Party – Classmates Set Up Hashtag To Mock Her Online [View all]uppityperson
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You again miss the entire point that with no other crime does the victim typically get blamed
"Your point appears to be that rape is the only crime for which there is any sort of "justification" offered by the criminals as to why they did it."
Not at all. My point is that there is still institutionalized, very much expected, reaction toward the victim of rape that they were to blame.
"The trouble comes when you seem to feel that you must denigrate the legitimacy of all other type of crime to show sympathy for the victims of one type. "
Not at all. The trouble comes when you do not realize that victims of rape often get viewed as having had some sort of responsibility. What were they wearing? Why did they agree to meet someone in private? Why was their bedroom window not barred? Etc.
"Followed immediately by a proscription having nothing to do with the culpability of the perpetrators. "
Not at all. You miss the point that we are saying, I am saying, that the perpetrators are responsible for the crime yet too often the blame is put on the victim instead.
"You seek to pretend that the rapists have no agency in their acts"
Not at all. "They and they alone are responsible for what they've done." This is my point.
"No "culture" makes any of these people do any of these acts." Of course not. But institutionalized, cultural expectations, that the victim did something wrong, is to blame, is very very wrong. To say rape victims are treated the same as victims of other crimes is also wrong as too often they are not. I've been raped. I've worked as a nurse with people who were raped. I volunteered at a rape crisis center. Too often we did not report the crimes because of that institutionalized, cultural bias that for some damn reason, it was our fault and the perps would never go to trial or be convicted.
"Get that through your skull. "