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freshwest

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35. Love the article and the ones it led me to. Especially the remark the Cato guy objected to:

Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:30 PM

Jul 2014

“classic transnational neocolonialist libertarian arrogance”

That nails it!!

...That does not mean, however, that the new wave of scalping apps lacks for defenders. Cato Institute policy analyst Matthew Feeney took me personally to task for attacking Monkey Parking, lamenting that “it’s a shame that he doesn’t appreciate that the price system is extremely efficient at communicating information to producers and customers…” (Feeney also found my reference to “classic transnational neocolonialist libertarian arrogance” “worrying” and “frightening.” What can I say? Libertarians almost never get my jokes.)

“worrying” and “frightening.”?

Spoken like a true malignant narcissist. Scared of that, huh?

And the linked piece:

What Isn’t for Sale?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/04/what-isnt-for-sale/308902/

People need to have these conversations. But they are too busy plugged in to think about the world they are creating.

As the link says, it's all about 'giving rich people what they want, when they want it' and the rest of the planet be damned.

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Are cellphones killing the restaurant business? [View all] trof Jul 2014 OP

I was at a bar earlier this week. OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #1

Someone posted this yesterday: CrispyQ Jul 2014 #20

Love this! mountain grammy Jul 2014 #31

!!!LOL. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #32

Talk to each other and get drunk - love it! Initech Jul 2014 #46

That's one of the reasons I stick with a stupid phone. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #2

I had to send that to my niece tech3149 Jul 2014 #22

"grafted onto their hands?" Don't give 'em any ideas! Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #33

Their heads = Google Glass. nt tblue37 Jul 2014 #55

But hands are big & cheaper, too. Style's crappy. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #73

People here in Korea are MUCH worse with cell phones davidpdx Jul 2014 #81

Japan, too Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #89

Between classes at school we generally have 10 minutes to get between classrooms davidpdx Jul 2014 #90

Wow, good read. Agschmid Jul 2014 #3

Businesses are going to have to install jammers Warpy Jul 2014 #4

HA! The worst offenders are the young daters Warpy Jul 2014 #10

I don't understand people who go out to eat Skittles Jul 2014 #74

I think that's illegal Orrex Jul 2014 #21

It should be illegal. I'm a pediatric hospice nurse. I'm on call mucifer Jul 2014 #80

And, from what the article reveals, it seems that the phones make people blame others Squinch Jul 2014 #5

I love my phone, but when I got to a resturant it is because I'm hungry. Kurska Jul 2014 #6

I'm the same way Bryce Butler Jul 2014 #26

Ditto. Veilex Jul 2014 #39

What do you putz around about? pangaia Jul 2014 #52

I mean it in the verb form Kurska Jul 2014 #53

No No. I know 'putz." pangaia Jul 2014 #54

That's not even the worst of it. There's a new racket going on DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #7

Love the article and the ones it led me to. Especially the remark the Cato guy objected to: freshwest Jul 2014 #35

Larry David, genius.... msanthrope Jul 2014 #9

That was cathartic. liberalmuse Jul 2014 #36

Marking to view later... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #67

I believe this. I've seen it myself. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #11

you are a common sense parent NJCher Jul 2014 #57

I'm not buying it FBaggins Jul 2014 #12

Same here ... frazzled Jul 2014 #15

That may be the NYC, July 3, tourist factor at work JHB Jul 2014 #28

Yes, this edhopper Jul 2014 #38

Umm, in Austin there is a lot of cell phone noodlng Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #47

I have no doubt that's true. FBaggins Jul 2014 #58

Maybe so. I just hear restaurant staff complain frequently Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #60

I agree. This is horseshit. The whole story is urban legend material. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #62

Seriously, that was my reaction- Cool story, bro. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #63

anecdotal but my friends do this for every stinking birthday and holiday... Phentex Jul 2014 #85

a worse one in there was the bit about getting a password for the WIFI (?!) KurtNYC Jul 2014 #86

Bullshit Android3.14 Jul 2014 #13

i've seen it. mopinko Jul 2014 #14

That's what we do, too. CrispyQ Jul 2014 #25

Sending food back to be reheated because you were farting around... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2014 #16

Cell phones are killing everything malaise Jul 2014 #17

I have dealt with this in my own personal circle tabbycat31 Jul 2014 #18

That was very informative. CrispyQ Jul 2014 #19

Saw so much of this in Manhattan last month Divernan Jul 2014 #23

I love to read stories about self-absorbed people... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #24

So very true. mountain grammy Jul 2014 #30

I'd say what's killing restaurant business is the continued crappy economy Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #27

Not in NYC brooklynite Jul 2014 #29

Yep. I'm around Prospect Park and there are tons of great NYC Liberal Jul 2014 #66

los angeles also JI7 Jul 2014 #69

Ha! Thought the help was on the phone, I shoulda known, never seen that happen. But now... freshwest Jul 2014 #34

Make an announcement: "First person to reach for their phone pays the tab for the entire table." hobbit709 Jul 2014 #37

De-evolution into a hunched over idiot staring at a handheld device. flvegan Jul 2014 #40

People need to spend more time eating and less time taking pics. House Jul 2014 #41

Not me. I absolutely hate it when people even have their iPhones out on the table smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #45

Depends on the food and who's sharing the pics. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2014 #56

if I ever meet one of these people who take pictures of food Skittles Jul 2014 #71

I like the cut of your jib. House Jul 2014 #77

If I whip out my cell phone, it's usually to proudly show people photos of grandchildren or Rozlee Jul 2014 #42

I've always hated talking on the phone aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #43

at some point we stop controlling our technology and Nevada Blue Jul 2014 #44

"The things you own end up owning you." - Tyler Durden House Jul 2014 #48

"First you use machines, then you wear machines, then you serve machines." hatrack Jul 2014 #83

it never ceases to amaze me how people will sit down in a restaurant and immediately... mike_c Jul 2014 #49

the "source" for this article was flagged for removal on craigslist fishwax Jul 2014 #50

Get a taste of the same behavior in small amounts here: kentauros Jul 2014 #87

oh yeah -- love that site fishwax Jul 2014 #88

Yea, ok. Maybe the restaurant business is getting a little just dessert. maced666 Jul 2014 #51

Can a restaurant legally ban customers from using them? Reter Jul 2014 #59

OHNOES: lingering over your food! Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #64

Twenty minutes of using phones instead of ordering isn't lingering over food. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #72

Indeed, it is also a complete fabrication. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #76

Idiocraphones. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #65

Addictophones. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #79

don't understand why people would want to take pictures of their food. Terra Alta Jul 2014 #68

if I ever receive such a picture Skittles Jul 2014 #75

while i am annoyed with the people who are always on their phones, i think this is just an excuse JI7 Jul 2014 #70

NOTE: that they compared a weekday 10 years ago to the start of a holiday weekend this year. unblock Jul 2014 #78

The whole story is horseshit. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #82

26 out of 45 customers spend an average of 3 minutes taking photos of the food. progressoid Jul 2014 #84