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JustAnotherGen

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129. ^ This exactly ^

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 01:50 PM

Jul 2014

When someone just wants to 'oh fiddle dee make it all go away' - I just feel like they are telling me I need to go help someone birth a baby or something.

You nailed it.

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9 Clueless Things White People Do When Confronted With Racism [View all] gollygee Jul 2014 OP

That number 4 is very irritating el_bryanto Jul 2014 #1

Your first point is very interesting. Igel Jul 2014 #25

Well it depends on what the point to the discussion is el_bryanto Jul 2014 #29

Very well said. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #90

Or, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #92

I should be clear here el_bryanto Jul 2014 #95

One person "wins" without having learned anything or become any better of a human being. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #155

A need for control over the terms of the debate. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #47

No. Because word meaning is extremely fluid and anybody who doesn't know that el_bryanto Jul 2014 #84

Taking a moment to understand the ideas expressed by the words is always worth doing. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #85

So you feel that people, in order to argue with you, need to use the dictionary definition el_bryanto Jul 2014 #93

Or, importantly, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #96

Do you take any responsibility for trying to understand other people, including how they use their AlbertCat Jul 2014 #106

Okay, what would help you understand the deficiency of Webster's ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #116

Oh pul-leez AlbertCat Jul 2014 #99

I understand that you feel that the dictionary definition is the only one you need to know el_bryanto Jul 2014 #108

understand that you feel that the dictionary definition is the only one you need to know AlbertCat Jul 2014 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #112

It's a waste of time AlbertCat Jul 2014 #115

I don't know if this is a dig at me el_bryanto Jul 2014 #121

I don't know if this is a dig at me AlbertCat Jul 2014 #130

And when those people's "made up definition for words" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #119

Really ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #122

Really AlbertCat Jul 2014 #125

In the words of another DUer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #137

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You see what's happening 1strong? JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #134

I'm white and this crap is infuriating me! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #158

Of course they are being willfully obtuse. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #180

Yes, no understanding of the reality of the situation. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #192

reflect the 50+ years of academic work of sociologists? AlbertCat Jul 2014 #123

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #128

Oh boy that saltnpepa JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #135

I'm mildly annoyed - had to go to lunch, and apparently her response to me was hidden el_bryanto Jul 2014 #143

I was done with that Poster ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #145

Sociologists acknowledge/define both individual and institutional racism AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #138

Please conduct this Google Search ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #139

You are being disingenuous AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #147

Okay. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #148

Show evidence AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #149

The evidence is that 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #150

Zero evidence forthcoming AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #169

Maybe you should have actually read what you linked to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #170

More self serving nonsense AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #171

Bullsh!t, as the link you posted demonstrated; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #172

You didn't bother reading what I posted AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #173

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #175

You provide no evidence of anything AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #176

Bullsh!t ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #179

There are many, many forms of racism AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #181

There are many manifestations of racism ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #182

What 'antiquated forms of racism' am I 'holding onto'? AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #183

Maybe; but then, so are the social scientists that I base my "deep denial" upon. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #184

You have yet to post your source AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #185

I've posted one of the over 900,000 peer reviewed articles ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #186

That is flat out dishonest AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #187

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #188

I did your google search AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #189

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #191

A child knows that there is a difference between the gradual change... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #174

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #109

So who are the real racists in your opinion - those who are genuinely racist? nt el_bryanto Jul 2014 #110

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #113

OK - now you understand that institutional power does enforce white privilege? el_bryanto Jul 2014 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #117

So you think institutional racism is over? Do you think affirmative action programs are still el_bryanto Jul 2014 #120

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #126

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #124

Did someone get PPR'd? Was that a n00b troll or someone with a history?? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #142

Yep. Saltnpepper ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #144

I totally missed what was said. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #146

I still like this advice: KurtNYC Jul 2014 #2

WOW! This is SO right on!! DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #31

Excellent point! nt valerief Jul 2014 #45

Agreed; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #98

Nice but wordy. I prefer Warpy Jul 2014 #131

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #159

Whoops, the linked article says 9, not 8. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #3

I must have mis-typed gollygee Jul 2014 #4

10) They make threads about gefilte fish. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #5

+10000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #9

Nailed it. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #71

Truly superb article. Thank you for posting. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #6

Happy to confirm that I have never said any of those things. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #7

You're in that other thread Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #10

Thanks and please note JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #12

Are you referring to bullet point #4? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #16

LOL!!! Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #17

You've never used the dictionary thing? JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #11

She never said those exact words Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #18

Ahhh - but I'm still not excusing her JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #46

Isn't it appropriate that white people should feel a little "uncomfy" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #19

No - I don't think they should JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #28

Perhaps some white people are entirely comfortable with the current racial situation in the US. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #35

Um no - it's not progress that did it. JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #44

I would think if some white person feels "uncomfy" discussing race... abakan Jul 2014 #89

OTOH if a white person is 100% comfortable with the current state of racial discrimination in the US Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #91

Not comfortable with the current state of race relations... abakan Jul 2014 #100

^ This exactly ^ JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #129

I like the GWTW reference... abakan Jul 2014 #133

Did you feel called out or something? How interesting that you felt compelled to share this Number23 Jul 2014 #154

c/p'ing the bullet points I pulled out in AA Group this weekend JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #8

I Can't Get The Link To Work . . . ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #13

Here it is gollygee Jul 2014 #14

�I don�t see race. I only see the human race.� AlbertCat Jul 2014 #37

Thanks ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #141

n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #15

Discard the dictionary definition or dailydot.com will call me a clueless white? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #20

As will I Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #21

Awful, just awful LittleBlue Jul 2014 #23

Or, you could inform yourself on ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #104

True to type, once again. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #127

Irony. nt LittleBlue Jul 2014 #136

You forgot create a thread on DU whistler162 Jul 2014 #22

I'm white, yet those 9 things LWolf Jul 2014 #24

If you live in a small town that's "not at all violent" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #49

Because my dad LWolf Jul 2014 #103

Ok, I will admit... one_voice Jul 2014 #26

I used to say that. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #55

Hmmm....maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent of... one_voice Jul 2014 #140

�You clearly don�t know what racism is. According to Webster�s Dictionary...� AlbertCat Jul 2014 #27

Using the dictionary is not approaching it "scientifically". Quite the opposite, it's a gross PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #77

You still must define your terms if they have more than one meaning... AlbertCat Jul 2014 #79

Using an encyclopedia, or academic paper, or large scale study would be 'scientific-er' PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #83

An online dictionary AlbertCat Jul 2014 #94

Actually, it IS approaching it scientifically. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2014 #153

They Forgot to Include #10 mckara Jul 2014 #30

Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #32

YES!!! DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #33

I need an article to the tune of treestar Jul 2014 #34

Louis C. K.: "White people have problems, too, like the time they took away our slaves." tclambert Jul 2014 #36

That was a real blow for white people, when they took away our right to own other people. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #39

How many white people were slave owners? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #81

Why should it matter? The fact is that white people owned black people and not the reverse. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #162

"Institutional power" - TBF Jul 2014 #38

"Institutional power" AlbertCat Jul 2014 #40

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #41

Where are the 9 clueless things asians do when confronted with racism? AlbertCat Jul 2014 #42

Are you aware of 9 clueless things that are pretty common in that situation? gollygee Jul 2014 #43

or make your own if this is something you've seen as a problem AlbertCat Jul 2014 #50

Have they? gollygee Jul 2014 #54

Why leave it up to "someone" to make the list? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #56

You seem exceptionally interested in it AlbertCat Jul 2014 #64

Hahaha! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #65

If you think that Asians say racist things, well then by all means, Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #51

Fair point and request JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #53

If you think that Asians say racist things, AlbertCat Jul 2014 #59

I have no idea what they say, frankly. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #61

you're being a little, well, emotional about it. AlbertCat Jul 2014 #67

Hahhaha! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #69

Sheldon Cooper... AlbertCat Jul 2014 #73

I think I'm the only one who finds these links ironic and abusive? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #48

It was actually posted in the AA Group this weekend JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #52

"Hey you guys! Look how racist I'm NOT" Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #60

Was it that? JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #66

Saying "I get it" shouldn't entail deriding people who, in the author's estimation, Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #70

But maybe black folks do? JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #86

"Hey Black Folks! Read this NOW!" Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #102

Actually - it did - last I checked JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #105

The author didn't accuse anyone AlbertCat Jul 2014 #78

I don't know JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #87

I've never experienced other Americans in this way that are Asian, Asian Indian, Native American... AlbertCat Jul 2014 #101

I don't think so - i.e. the anecdotal not being reliable JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #107

You could also JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #88

"Abusive"? Seriously? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #58

No, I feel abused when someone assures me I'm a racist Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #62

If you're not a racist, then the checklist isn't about you. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #63

Ohhhhh...sorry. It's only for people who self-identify as racist. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #68

I can read that without one single ounce of defensiveness. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #72

I'm not defensive. I'm dismissive. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #75

Well, "dismissive" says a lot, too. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #76

It says exactly one thing: that I dismiss its content as inapplicable to me Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #80

Don't sweat it Dreamer... AlbertCat Jul 2014 #82

I agree. phil89 Jul 2014 #74

Is it the idea that reverse racism doesn't exist? Hoppy Jul 2014 #57

In the sense that white people have never been systematically treated as "less than" nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #161

These are things that should be said out loud. davidthegnome Jul 2014 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #151

Why did you self-delete everything you've posted in the last month?...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #152

Why don't you get us started? Number23 Jul 2014 #156

"Ignore it and allow it to fester" should probably be on there. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #163

I think you nailed it in one. Number23 Jul 2014 #178

You seem ready to offer such a list Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #160

I am at a loss as to why this article is at all controversial ....? etherealtruth Jul 2014 #157

Evidently, generalizations hurt people's feelings. Even when they're true. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #164

All the article aims to do is make people think .... etherealtruth Jul 2014 #166

I agree. The butt-hurt in this thread is ridiculous. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #168

Whole lot of white people with the sadz on DU. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #165

Challenging one's beliefs is hard etherealtruth Jul 2014 #167

Sounds about right. Warpy Jul 2014 #177

It's a good article steve2470 Jul 2014 #190