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nomorenomore08

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14. It's almost like a reflex. Responding to a certain subject with defensiveness every. single. time.

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Tue Jul 15, 2014, 05:41 PM

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Why Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned is sexist [View all] cali Jul 2014 OP

Good post, cali... DonViejo Jul 2014 #1

Agreed. arcane1 Jul 2014 #2

I wish I could say I was amazed BainsBane Jul 2014 #13

Well, take a look at reply #3. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #17

I am not, I have found lots of rightwing thinking on this site randys1 Jul 2014 #51

Can we go after Shakespeare next? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #3

Why? LisaLynne Jul 2014 #4

Does he post sexist idioms on DU? cyberswede Jul 2014 #5

what's your point? cali Jul 2014 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #41

Has nothing to do with literary works. Let alone from centuries ago. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #7

It's called derail and distract BainsBane Jul 2014 #8

I just don't know why anyone would bother. You'd think they'd have better things to do nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #10

You don't understand BainsBane Jul 2014 #12

It's almost like a reflex. Responding to a certain subject with defensiveness every. single. time. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #14

Yes. You should do that right now. Go on! Scoot! Squinch Jul 2014 #23

You can go after anyone as long as you misquote them first. IronLionZion Jul 2014 #197

Here is the full quote awake Jul 2014 #9

Which is what cali already posted in her OP... cyberswede Jul 2014 #15

cali, I was on that jury .... Scuba Jul 2014 #11

thanks so much for your post Scuba. cali Jul 2014 #16

You're welcome. This is one of the reasons I love DU. I learned something today. Scuba Jul 2014 #19

"It seems obvious to me in the same way that "Muslims don't renounce terrorism" is obvious." redqueen Jul 2014 #20

I don't agree with you, as a woman. And as a woman, I acknowledge the right of others to disagree sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #21

it's more than opinion. It;s a sentiment that wrongly characterizes women cali Jul 2014 #24

Well stated. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #29

You are expressing YOUR opinion of what someone means when they use the phrase. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #31

It's "only an opinion" kcr Jul 2014 #46

"It's such a pat dismissal." MerryBlooms Jul 2014 #57

Um, did you mean to direct that question to those who ARE stating that the opinions of others sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #82

No, I meant you. kcr Jul 2014 #87

I think you just contradicted yourself. Didn't YOU just accuse ME, wrongfully as I pointed out sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #105

Yes. Some opinions are valid, some not. No contradiction. kcr Jul 2014 #106

That's your opinion, which you're entitle to, no matter how wrong you are in MY equally sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #109

Being entitled to an opinion doesn't make you right. kcr Jul 2014 #110

And visa versa! AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #125

Very true! kcr Jul 2014 #157

Nor does it make you right. Its just your opinion as well. LaurenG Jul 2014 #219

And my point is so what? kcr Jul 2014 #226

OK LaurenG Jul 2014 #228

Some people seem to have a problem with that. kcr Jul 2014 #231

I agree with your opinion Sabrina notadmblnd Jul 2014 #126

I have seen no personal attack on you in this thread intaglio Jul 2014 #139

"I simply think you don't get it- about so very many things." jberryhill Jul 2014 #252

It is someone's perception of why a particular person does not understand how others see things intaglio Jul 2014 #280

What personal attack? NCTraveler Jul 2014 #241

" I simply think you don't get it- about so very many things." jberryhill Jul 2014 #251

Compared to what she throws out there, no. Not in any way. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #256

there are two types of statements.... jberryhill Jul 2014 #260

I don't care about being attacked, just to be clear, that has never stopped me from stating my sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #254

Are there any posts of yours in this thread containing more than seven pronouns? NCTraveler Jul 2014 #258

Of course, my posts contain plenty of pronouns, but they are usually descriptive sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #259

I also don't find it sexist pipi_k Jul 2014 #61

And I Don't RobinA Jul 2014 #150

then why is it such a joke, a giggle, a chuckle for men? wink wink. jab in rib. ha ha. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #151

'Cause RobinA Jul 2014 #165

oh. ya right. you think you are pulling the wool over the mens eyes. so as they insult you. seabeyond Jul 2014 #166

I Thought RobinA Jul 2014 #172

because this notion that women are all that in irrational and emotional doesnt effect our real life seabeyond Jul 2014 #187

every one of your posts starts, woman here, and no misogyny or sexism at all. really. every one. seabeyond Jul 2014 #37

Thanks for your comment. I am proud to be a woman. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #38

right sabrina. that is the point. i object to women declaring their gender. you got me. seabeyond Jul 2014 #39

"You object to women declaring their gender on the internet " sufrommich Jul 2014 #66

Why would someone even comment on another woman stating that she is a woman? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #80

It wasn't hard to understand at all. Sea stated that you preface sufrommich Jul 2014 #89

So you are saying that because I don't agree that a literary quote is sexist sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #92

Why? kcr Jul 2014 #108

You are upset that a woman states she is a woman? Wow! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #115

Your opinion that those you disagree with seem to think they speak for all women kcr Jul 2014 #119

They don't speak for all women due to the fact that women like me among others sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #121

Right, we got it. Women like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman boston bean Jul 2014 #144

Because they're Just Your Opinions kcr Jul 2014 #229

Apparently It Does RobinA Jul 2014 #170

Thank you Robin. I believe the objection to a woman who disagrees with the supposed status quo sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #193

I've never been raped kcr Jul 2014 #199

+1 nt NCTraveler Jul 2014 #242

You, Sabrina, are one of the strongest, most intelligent, able women I 'know' polly7 Jul 2014 #86

I think your posts are demonstrative of the issue laundry_queen Jul 2014 #93

I respect you too and enjoy your posts. We simply disagree on this. I am fully aware sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #97

The words may not hurt you laundry_queen Jul 2014 #111

There are no insults in that post, unless you want there to be. Someone disagreeing with you is sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #118

The insulting was done by the person whose language you are defending BainsBane Jul 2014 #154

yes. "more easily offended by objections to sexism than sexism itself?" seabeyond Jul 2014 #156

Don't try to conflate these two issues, they are entirely separate which several sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #232

Thank you for getting to the ... prairierose Jul 2014 #257

+100 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #266

Thank you for reading.... prairierose Jul 2014 #309

excellent post, queen. i have not delved in this thread, but, i would make your point. looking at seabeyond Jul 2014 #143

If it isn't offensive, it ought to be. How a person reacts to rejection is a matter of personality, Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #49

Quotes from anonymous, ignorant people on the internet have zero effect on me. Is there some sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #76

This is something pipi_k Jul 2014 #96

Good post, thank you! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #98

+1000 notadmblnd Jul 2014 #127

Goodie for you. Black people are lazy. Mexicans are dirty. Women are irrational. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #131

The point is, many feel and agree that the quote portrays Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #158

That is your opinion and to you it makes sense. I respect that. Mine happens to be different. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #164

you call women weak and victims if they speak out. now, you are calling women bullies if they speak seabeyond Jul 2014 #168

I talk about women's issues in RL and on other forums. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #270

You blamed women on du for not participating in discussions about women's issues. 3 groups we do not seabeyond Jul 2014 #274

Why are you fighting with me? You made a comment, I responded with sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #275

no sabrina. you are not respectful. that is the problem. not even a little. your posts of full seabeyond Jul 2014 #283

Disagreeing with someone, stating a difference opinion, is not disrespectful. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #285

but you do ascribe nefarious motive to those that disagree with you and you do repeatedly seabeyond Jul 2014 #286

Yep. Quite the cognitive dissonance. JTFrog Jul 2014 #287

totally.... seabeyond Jul 2014 #288

I did ask you I believe for examples of what you are claiming. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #294

Correction: that would be "affects" smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #267

To me, it is offensive. Jamastiene Jul 2014 #208

Thank you...I am so weary of being scorned for not being upset over likesmountains 52 Jul 2014 #88

Lol, don't worry, you are far from alone! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #94

I think you could have worked "I'm a woman" in to that post a few more times. jeff47 Jul 2014 #107

Well, if you had asked me sooner, I would have done it, as a woman, just for you. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #112

They are not being admonished for saying they ARE woman. They are being admonished jeff47 Jul 2014 #114

How dare you accuse me of using my gender as a shield. I should alert on this sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #116

And there you do it again. jeff47 Jul 2014 #117

Your comments to me as a woman here are sexist. You are using that old 'shame on you' routine sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #120

No, they're not. They're recounting what you've actually done in this thread. jeff47 Jul 2014 #122

You have done worse than tell me I have no right to an opinion, you have deliberatley sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #124

Wait, remind me again. Are you a woman? smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #134

uh oh. i think she is making all women look weak and i think we are suppose to get pissed about it. seabeyond Jul 2014 #147

Yeah, sea... Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #159

it truly was a wtf moment for me this morning. thank you. thank you for seabeyond Jul 2014 #167

Yes, of course. It's kind of sad, isn't i? smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #269

The nice thing about a message board is it's impossible to mischaracterize an argument jeff47 Jul 2014 #175

I'm truly sorry that there are actually people here who are offended by a woman stating sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #186

It's not that you have opinions as a woman. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #216

Sure it is, it's about women who don't bow down to bullying and most people here know it sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #217

You did good. LaurenG Jul 2014 #225

Holy crap Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #212

omg... sabrina. go up adn read those posts, right above that you just posted. i cannot seabeyond Jul 2014 #146

She never reads beyond about the 3rd sentence in a reply. jeff47 Jul 2014 #177

ya know. now we are pretending that the conditioned belief that women are emotional and irrational seabeyond Jul 2014 #188

I also agree with Sabrina LaurenG Jul 2014 #220

bully for you lauren. terrible affront? hardly. do not make more of it than what it is. seabeyond Jul 2014 #221

You are the ones making this a bad bunch of words so bully for you! LaurenG Jul 2014 #222

i will say once then out of here. we are discussing a term, coined long ago when women were property seabeyond Jul 2014 #224

Go hog wild? LaurenG Jul 2014 #238

hog wild as in.... last word. i would not be back in but feels like i am being set up for hides so, seabeyond Jul 2014 #240

Come on LaurenG Jul 2014 #245

tsk tsk... how dare? isnt that showing weakens? you are singlehadnedly taking down all women with seabeyond Jul 2014 #145

You noticed that too? LOL! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #268

This Is My RobinA Jul 2014 #149

Are you mercuryblues Jul 2014 #235

Search the site, and you'll find it used a fair amount muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #18

It isn't. It's an opinion, and we are all entitled to opinions. I do not find it sexist, as a matter sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #22

so then it's opinion that Muslims have a predilection for terrorism and generally don't condemn it? cali Jul 2014 #32

Why do you assume that 'scorn' always relates to men when it comes to women? Women sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #33

But the quote is specifically about women's supposed fury *over men.* DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #67

The quote is used for many different reasons in today's world. Personally I don't care much how sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #73

Thank you! polly7 Jul 2014 #77

I know, never give anyone that kind of power over you, imo. I am shocked at sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #83

When women speak out to say you are not going to speak to me like that, you are not going seaglass Jul 2014 #141

men say that as a jab at women, for a little chuckle. we are bascially being told, the strong woman seabeyond Jul 2014 #148

Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #272

Can I add my two cents? Generic Other Jul 2014 #81

Good post, Generic Other, very well said. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #100

There's a problem with that argument. jeff47 Jul 2014 #113

Where In This Quote RobinA Jul 2014 #179

Then you don't know what it means treestar Jul 2014 #230

Well, it's a princess telling a captive she will have him killed muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #236

He's dead, it's literature. And I like that women can be viewed as forces to be sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #255

She is not being viewed as a force to be reckoned with treestar Jul 2014 #278

that is mercuryblues Jul 2014 #289

when men are laughing their ass off at you, to your face, pretty well know it is not a compliment. seabeyond Jul 2014 #290

yup mercuryblues Jul 2014 #291

someone down thread said, women are this, own it. (a woman said that). no. seabeyond Jul 2014 #292

I use everything I can for the benefit of women. Do you have a problem with sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #293

my counter mercuryblues Jul 2014 #295

It just doesn't offend most women, sorry you are upset over that. And yes, I will use every tool sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #296

When a women uses it, they are defining THEMSELVES as irrational and vengeful because that is Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #299

+1 mercuryblues Jul 2014 #308

LOL mercuryblues Jul 2014 #307

I've gone very far with it and find that when you take the power away from those who sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #310

you do allow others power if you behave in a poor manner just to try to get something over them. seabeyond Jul 2014 #311

That's confusing. To me, those behaving in a poor manner are those trying to insult sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #315

No mercuryblues Jul 2014 #313

You sound very hostile, and all because I don't agree with you. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #314

that sounds mercuryblues Jul 2014 #316

Lol, the irony. 'Why are you ascribing emotions to me'! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #317

Not once mercuryblues Jul 2014 #318

Why the personal attack? What part of mercuryblues seem hostile? Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #319

Thank you. It is often used as an insult because it perpetuates the stereotype that women do not Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #297

supposedly, i think the argument is, we are that and we need to use it as a tool to be strong, seabeyond Jul 2014 #298

I don't get it either. Defining women as irrationally violent with rage when they are rejected IS Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #301

i do not see it as... lol. for sure. lol. ah ha. i am glad some are interpreting seabeyond Jul 2014 #303

I've alerted on the phrase a couple of times and it's been hidden BainsBane Jul 2014 #26

it's about how women cannot act rationally in the face of rejection from a man. how is that NOT cali Jul 2014 #27

'fury' is not necessarily 'irrational' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #30

I can't agree. I think the general sense of the phrase in context and as it's been historicallly cali Jul 2014 #34

In the context of how that phrase is commonly used, irrational is the implication. kcr Jul 2014 #50

Exactly. Wasn't it recently laundry_queen Jul 2014 #95

No... RobinA Jul 2014 #181

Well, thinking something isn't harmless, is it? kcr Jul 2014 #207

It is stupid. Why do we hear so much about men murdering the women who try to divorce/leave them, smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #55

My first thought too. nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #69

You called it right, Cali. yallerdawg Jul 2014 #25

here is another that goes along what you say, woman scorned. all women are liars. seabeyond Jul 2014 #28

My wife actually uses that phrase (not about me, but herself). We have a bit madinmaryland Jul 2014 #35

Groan... is this why a jury hid my post? Quantess Jul 2014 #36

quantess..... i love you. seabeyond Jul 2014 #40

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #43

lol. that woman? i would have called her stupid. that was all she was to me. stupid. seabeyond Jul 2014 #44

I do not get the sensitivity to the "b" word. Quantess Jul 2014 #48

Neither have I. F4lconF16 Jul 2014 #132

Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #271

I believe in you, seabeyond, I really do. Quantess Jul 2014 #54

lol. i am gonna get back to you. seabeyond Jul 2014 #56

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Is it so hilarious? Quantess Jul 2014 #45

I think the point is that you can call them "horrible" spooky3 Jul 2014 #123

You are correct. JEFF9K Jul 2014 #185

challenge the democratic administration to your free speech of rw talking points. i dare you. seabeyond Jul 2014 #190

What the eff are you talking about? JEFF9K Jul 2014 #209

"this site shackles free speech and free thought." challenge the democratic administration to your seabeyond Jul 2014 #213

Please explain how what you said even begins to make sense. JEFF9K Jul 2014 #214

you are yelling about your free speech being shackled. oh the outrage. so, tell skinner not being seabeyond Jul 2014 #215

The non right wing members gain from it. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #246

Claiming that a quote from an significant playwright or author renders it harmless intaglio Jul 2014 #47

Jeez it's a figure of speech Gman Jul 2014 #52

Did someone actually defend a sexist phrase with geek tragedy Jul 2014 #53

bah hahahaha. it is a guy thing you all. you know, sexist shit. just a guy thing. lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #60

It's starting to get ridiculous around here. . truebrit71 Jul 2014 #63

Delayed super-moon stuff, I guess Gman Jul 2014 #65

A figure of speech that generalizes about women treestar Jul 2014 #78

It isn't sexist because it's a guy thing? jeff47 Jul 2014 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Gman Jul 2014 #58

You can put Congrieve's phrase in the context you want Gman Jul 2014 #59

more men murder women when scorned. few women do shit when scorned, besides leave. it is bullshit, seabeyond Jul 2014 #62

The fact that the guy likely deserves the wrath aside Gman Jul 2014 #64

all you are doing is saying, regardless how clearly it is misogyny, so the fuck what. men will seabeyond Jul 2014 #68

Thank heavens broad-brushing isn't a 'girl thing'. polly7 Jul 2014 #70

You might get onto gman about it since he was the one to say it. But, thanks for seabeyond Jul 2014 #71

I didn't 'follow you' on anything. polly7 Jul 2014 #72

Very well said, polly. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #102

"I despise the way posters here are lumped into groups to be demonized " BainsBane Jul 2014 #142

You always forget the "in my opinion" part Gman Jul 2014 #75

So you admit you generalize about women treestar Jul 2014 #79

When they're really really really really pissed, at least in my experience. Much more pissed than Gman Jul 2014 #84

What's next? demosincebirth Jul 2014 #74

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #85

lol @ this thread LittleBlue Jul 2014 #90

It was over an intensely abusive PM BainsBane Jul 2014 #140

So did he get a piece of pizza or did he get the whole damn thing? Edit for never mind. :) I lonestarnot Jul 2014 #91

you state your case well fishwax Jul 2014 #99

Utter nonsense. Beausoir Jul 2014 #101

You and I disagree on a lot of things, cali MohRokTah Jul 2014 #103

pssst... hey cali.... shhh... WillyT Jul 2014 #128

I have never used that phrase before. dilby Jul 2014 #129

The idea that there is something "weak" about recognizing sexism is absurd BainsBane Jul 2014 #130

Who is "AAO", and what did they send? TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #262

Here BainsBane Jul 2014 #263

glad the troll was banned; however, I agree with others who disagree with your framing ecstatic Jul 2014 #133

+1 kickysnana Jul 2014 #137

I agree with the OP get the red out Jul 2014 #135

Respectively disagree. kickysnana Jul 2014 #136

It may easily underestimate hell quaker bill Jul 2014 #138

I think this is one of those old world phrases that is not going away as fast as some others liberal N proud Jul 2014 #152

absolutely. it is merely the progression beyond the racism, sexism adn homophobia. and no, they seabeyond Jul 2014 #153

You haven't made your case. This reads more like an after-the-fact rationalization. nt Romulox Jul 2014 #155

... LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #160

... LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #161

Hilarious! :D kysrsoze Jul 2014 #205

I would bet the vast majority of people, DU or not, view that phrase as a compliment to women. ieoeja Jul 2014 #162

The person who sent it to the jury should be suspended. JEFF9K Jul 2014 #163

I personally don't see it that way LaurenG Jul 2014 #169

Calling our a sexist saying is not "crucifying" people. redqueen Jul 2014 #173

I don't understand what you said in your title. LaurenG Jul 2014 #174

There's a typo. "nor" should have been "not" redqueen Jul 2014 #176

Let it be known that I am the most anti bullying proponent LaurenG Jul 2014 #180

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #178

False balance. redqueen Jul 2014 #182

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #183

Nice dodge. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #189

some people actually raise an issue to be thought about and discussed. you go right into insult. seabeyond Jul 2014 #192

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #198

my personal issues are not in play unless you plan on creating that. wtf? so, you are saying seabeyond Jul 2014 #200

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that is all i have read from you. you are the one advocating and doing. so, ok. ya... whatever. seabeyond Jul 2014 #203

It seems to me there is more degrading from those who don't think it's sexist kcr Jul 2014 #211

I agree with your comments about misogyny on DU. LWolf Jul 2014 #171

but see. thinking about it was all this was about. the insutls and accusations, simply seabeyond Jul 2014 #191

Well, I'm doing that, aren't I? LWolf Jul 2014 #195

yes. and it was an interesting read how you processed thought on the subject. seabeyond Jul 2014 #196

I wish others would put thought behind things as you have done here. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #248

Of course it's sexist. Orsino Jul 2014 #184

i was thinking about htis. a man murdering his wife, cause he is scorned. how would that play.... seabeyond Jul 2014 #194

If a Woman tells me, a man, something is sexist or misogynist, then that is that...they know. randys1 Jul 2014 #201

And . . . if another woman tells you, a man, the SAME something is NOT sexist . . . Petrushka Jul 2014 #206

Easy. You go with the person saying something is sexist/racist kcr Jul 2014 #264

So you agree than women are more prone than men to react with irrational rage when scorned? Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #302

A sound policy! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #273

Is smirky from the HBO show with O'Dowd? randys1 Jul 2014 #300

No, it's an old reference smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #320

Every single day... more [insert irreparable harm]-ist B.S. kysrsoze Jul 2014 #204

Unforuntately, some who share the view BainsBane Jul 2014 #304

On political correctness BainsBane Jul 2014 #306

Puhleeeze, let's not get all hysterical now, woman. Zorra Jul 2014 #210

You know, I think this a millennial problem - we are supposed to throw out each and every word or Hestia Jul 2014 #218

As a woman, I loathe the idea that sexism/misogyny is the ONLY form of bigotry that we should ignore redqueen Jul 2014 #223

Educated people get what the phrase means treestar Jul 2014 #227

Like these uses, you mean? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #237

I don't think they are quite getting what "scorned" means treestar Jul 2014 #279

They're using it in exactly the same context that AAO used it in, that cali and you complained about muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #281

I hold this same opinion LaurenG Jul 2014 #234

You think anyone who disagrees with you doesn't think for themselves? redqueen Jul 2014 #243

It was sarcasm LaurenG Jul 2014 #244

gotcha... redqueen Jul 2014 #247

Great! LaurenG Jul 2014 #250

firstly, if i am "scorned" i walk. fury does not even have a place. so no. i wont own it. seabeyond Jul 2014 #249

An interesting thread that was posted today related to the word "Fury" awake Jul 2014 #233

Thank you for the link. Petrushka Jul 2014 #276

Thanks cali. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #239

You may find this interesting, or not. Sissyk Jul 2014 #253

There are couple of ex-boyfriends who can attest RebelOne Jul 2014 #261

"...spawn of the devil." ?? Oh, my! Petrushka Jul 2014 #265

meh Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #277

Perhaps "Hell hath no fury like a LOVER scorned?" IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #282

as someone in the midst of a divorce i did not even want mopinko Jul 2014 #284

If you are up in arms about misogyny why don't you attack the bible? mr blur Jul 2014 #305

golly gee. feminists talk about the bible? religion? geeez, why didnt feminists EVER seabeyond Jul 2014 #312