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In reply to the discussion: Democratic Party is very united [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)14. Um, I am speaking in modern times, too, given I have no time machine.
And no matter when or where you are speaking, "traditionalist" and "traditional Democrat" are not synonyms.
You keep bring up New Democrats as if they are magically delicious, when all they are are mirrors of days past.
No. I bring them up to distinguish them from New Democrats. Just as New Democrats named themselves New Democrats to distinguish themselves from traditional Democrats.
Progressives are making stuff happen. From Gay rights, to legalization, to new tech, to combating the old ways of big money politics, we are now moving forward and crushing the old conservative traditional ways. We have to. The old ways are dinosaurs which are bad for the country and the world.
The hippies are always right. Don't ever forget that.
Sure, when New Democrats, lobbyists and Republicans agree, things happen.
BTW the hippies were not New Democrats--and you don't speak for hippies anymore than you speak for DU or FDR.
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In your rhetorical universe, have hippies become the sort of wise, savage shamans?
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#17
"So, where we are now is where Reagan Democrats and New Democrats got us."
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#18
Your OP is weirdly paranoid and almost completely detached from reality.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#6
Whether or not a group represents the exact majority opinion of the party, they are still the party.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#13
Until he complies with my request to furnish his definition of "liberal progressive," I
merrily
Jul 2014
#16
He does seem a little confused about his terminology, if nothing else...
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#20
More "the left of the Party is conservative and rw" bs. All you've got apparently.
merrily
Jul 2014
#31
The reason why there are so many angles is that the argument is tautological.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#25