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xchrom

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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:50 AM Jul 2014

Americans Are Leaving Religion Behind and It Scares the Hell Out of the Christian Right [View all]

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/americans-are-leaving-religion-behind-and-it-scares-hell-out-christian-right



There’s been a lot of ink spilled about the increasing political polarization in America , which is at historically high levels. There’s a lot of reasons for it, including changing demographics, women’s growing empowerment, the internet, the economy and cable news. But religion and religious belief plays an important role as well. There’s no way around it: America is quickly becoming two nations, one ruled over by fundamentalist Christians and their supporters and one that is becoming all the more secular over time, looking more and more like western Europe in its relative indifference to religion. And caught in between are a group of liberal Christians that are culturally aligned with secularists and are increasingly and dismayingly seeing the concept of “faith” aligned with a narrow and conservative political worldview.

That this polarization is happening is hard to deny, even if it’s harder to measure that political polarization. The number of Americans who cite “none” when asked about a religious identity is rising rapidly, up to nearly 20% from 15% in 2007, with a third of people under 30 identifying with no religious faith. Two-thirds of the “nones” say they believe in God, suggesting that this is more of a cultural drift towards secularism than some kind of crisis of faith across the country.

But even this may underrepresent how secular our country really is getting, as many people who say they belong to a church don’t really go to church much, if at all. While Americans like to tell pollsters they go to church regularly, in-depth research shows they are lying and many of them blow it off, putting our actual church-going rates at roughly the same level of secular Western Europe.

Even when people identify with a label like “Catholic” or “Methodist”, that doesn’t mean they consider it an important part of their identity in the way that people used to. Take, for instance, the way that weddings have quietly changed in this country. It used to be that you had a wedding in a church, and only people who were eloping got married by someone other than a minister. Now, outside of very religious circles, it’s more common to see weddings on beaches or at country clubs, and very often officiated by friends of the couple rather than clergy. Indeed, state laws are slowly beginning to change to reflect this reality, allowing more flexibility for people to have the secular weddings they increasingly desire.
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The churches have failed RobertEarl Jul 2014 #1
+1 xchrom Jul 2014 #2
Maybe they were preaching whatever filled the basket at first, JoeyT Jul 2014 #5
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2014 #27
But a big chunk always preached fire & brimstone, women made from a rib, and other bullshit. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #29
religion jlover70 Jul 2014 #3
I would say organized religion - people still have faith, but don't go to services Justice Jul 2014 #4
These fools think they can breed their way out IronLionZion Jul 2014 #6
" in-depth research shows they are lying" Brainstormy Jul 2014 #7
Funny, do they ever even watch tele-evangelists beg for money on TV? Rex Jul 2014 #8
I never say Jesus normally. I always say something like JAYUSUS!!! In my best TV preacher accent. brewens Jul 2014 #32
This is the problem I have though. Xyzse Jul 2014 #34
Quaker weddings have no one to officiate. smilodon populator Jul 2014 #9
They did it to themselves. Lex Jul 2014 #10
Responded to you in post #11 below. closeupready Jul 2014 #12
"same on FB" - yep, why I unfriended about a dozen 'friends' closeupready Jul 2014 #11
The "magical thinking" thing is what bothers me. Lex Jul 2014 #13
Hell, I'm damn near losing real life friends of 20+ years over this Populist_Prole Jul 2014 #16
I am looking at your second paragraph. Xyzse Jul 2014 #35
The hate driven conservative RW churches are driving people away from religion in droves. Zorra Jul 2014 #14
I only WISH the analysis is True.. 2banon Jul 2014 #15
I am delighted that they are scared - they are the reason many are leaving religion behind. They jwirr Jul 2014 #17
No coincidence they're pushing for more religious control of government Hugabear Jul 2014 #18
Yes, just like - historically - ALL organized religions have done. closeupready Jul 2014 #23
"liberal Christian" here. L0oniX Jul 2014 #19
Here, too gratuitous Jul 2014 #20
Law and Grace do not mix IMO. L0oniX Jul 2014 #21
Another one here! hamsterjill Jul 2014 #24
Problem for churches is that too many of then push a God between the Ears rather than haele Jul 2014 #22
I'm a CINO... GOLGO 13 Jul 2014 #25
Anything that pisses off the religious right is definitely a good thing. Initech Jul 2014 #26
This about covers it... Wounded Bear Jul 2014 #28
My Christian parents have come to realize this. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #30
Truthfully, I don't need a brick building to believe what I believe. woodsprite Jul 2014 #31
Why does one have to go a fixed location to get advice on how to exist? PM Martin Jul 2014 #33
Take it from a former Catholic School Teenage Girl HockeyMom Jul 2014 #36
And today it is sooo easy to compare notes in cyberspace. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #37
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