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fasttense

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41. Yes, indeed, Nixon, Raygun and the bushes were all illegitimate presidents.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jul 2014

I don't think the RepubliCONS are able to get a president elected without committing treason or at a minimum voter fraud.

"Thom Hartmann: Right. So Barbara Honegger who was in the Reagan administration wrote a book called “October Surprise” in which she suggested that Bill Casey did something very much like what we’ve heard the, I don’t know, you’re a guest right now I don’t want to play the tape for you, but I’ll play it in the next segment. The Johnson Library just released this tape last year and, of Lyndon Johnson talking to Everett Dirksen in, you know, leading up to the election of ’86, or ’68 rather. And he said you know we have proof now, we have the wire taps of the Nixon campaign talking to the South Vietnamese saying don’t make peace with LBJ because that will help Hubert Humphrey get elected. Instead wait until I’m president and I’ll get you a better deal. And Everett Dirksen said yes I know it’s going on and Lyndon Johnson said this is treason, Everett. And Everett said, and Everett Dirksen said I will try to talk to Nixon, but he’s not listening to us. And I mean these tapes are now, they’re public, they’re in the Johnson Library. I’m amazed that when they came out it was like a little one paragraph story in the New York Times that led me to them.

And, Barbara Honegger is alleging that basically the same thing happened in the Reagan campaign. That Bill Casey, who was the campaign manager, contacted the Iranians and said you want spare parts for your US made weapons? Jimmy Carter is never going to give them to you, he’s your enemy. Help Ronald Reagan get elected by holding onto the hostages and we’ll make sure that you get them and…

Reese Erlich: I know it comes as a shock to your listeners, Thom, that aspiring people, aspiring to the most powerful job in the world might engage in some underhanded dirty trick sin order to get themselves into power. But revelation time, what you described, absolutely it did happen. Casey cut a back room deal and if you had told people at the time that this was going on, people would have thought you were crazy. But when you look at what actually happened with the Iran Contra scandal, that’s exactly what they did. Which is that through secret back channels with the Iranian government with Rafsanjani then the president, they cut a deal to provide very, very much needed spare parts for what had been the Shah’s military and was heavily armed by the United states in order to help Iran against it’s then war with Iraq and on the part of the US they used the profits from those sales to arm the contras in Nicaragua illegally. Which because congress had cut off funding for that so they needed an alternative means to arm the contras."

- See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2011/03/transcript-thom-hartmann-asks-reese-erlich-if-ronald-reagan-cut-iran-hostage-deal-and-s#sthash.yX5xcylo.dpuf

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We certainly don't GP6971 Jul 2014 #1
HAWK and TOW sales probably were payback for help stealing 1980 election via October Surprise. Octafish Jul 2014 #2
A side note on the the Hawk missile system made by Raytheon GP6971 Jul 2014 #7
This does not surprise me Go Vols Jul 2014 #23
Cartoon maintenance manuals go back to at least World War II blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #52
Didn't know that. Thanks. n/t GP6971 Jul 2014 #56
Yes, indeed, Nixon, Raygun and the bushes were all illegitimate presidents. fasttense Jul 2014 #41
K&R. johnnyreb Jul 2014 #3
Excellent. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #10
Now that was good. zeemike Jul 2014 #19
Emperors v Pirates Octafish Jul 2014 #35
They learned the behavior from Trickie Dickie... roamer65 Jul 2014 #4
''Treason'' is how LBJ put it. Octafish Jul 2014 #34
You need a graphic pic warning on that leftstreet Jul 2014 #5
It IS a nasty image. Octafish Jul 2014 #36
K&R! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #6
They also armed Saddam Hussein in the 1980s. Octafish Jul 2014 #37
I was going to respond to your question when the thread opened with "psychopaths" Samantha Jul 2014 #8
American Caligula Octafish Jul 2014 #30
... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #9
stinky!! navarth Jul 2014 #16
I still say Fawn Hall should have sold shredders.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #28
Nice pic. But now he's a, probably well paid, poisonality on TV. eom Cleita Jul 2014 #26
Stinky the Dope Dealer Octafish Jul 2014 #53
"Well, I had a genuine moral christx30 Jul 2014 #11
Power the semantics of terrorism... Octafish Jul 2014 #64
Probably The Same Kind Of Person That Sells A Mentally Unstable Person Guns....nt global1 Jul 2014 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #13
Is it me, or has the CIA become the elephant in the room which no one ever mentions? QuestForSense Jul 2014 #14
What, they mention it all the time. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #18
GHWB easychoice Jul 2014 #21
Poppy represents the black heart of the elephant. Octafish Jul 2014 #25
indeed. kicking. navarth Jul 2014 #15
Agreed. As you know, volstork Jul 2014 #17
Good points. zeemike Jul 2014 #20
I bet Bush was bummed out when Reagan didn't croak. easychoice Jul 2014 #22
did they also give 'em cookies? MisterP Jul 2014 #24
John McFarlane and Oliver North delivered a cake shaped like a key... Octafish Jul 2014 #29
the bush family and his cronies historian Jul 2014 #27
‘Dynasty of Death’ Octafish Jul 2014 #51
That is what I think every time I hear how the weapon was a Russian made weapon. Every country jwirr Jul 2014 #31
NWO. The more dead the better. librechik Jul 2014 #32
BFEE Business Model: Sell Arms to Both Sides Octafish Jul 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #38
Haven't you heard? No one is above the law. Octafish Jul 2014 #45
In 1934, the Nye Committee attempted to nationalize the arms industry RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #39
Thank you! That should be an OP, RufusTFirefly. Octafish Jul 2014 #42
You're welcome, Octafish! Perhaps it will come as no surprise that ... RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #43
Compassionate conservatives. They have compassion for their wallets. nt valerief Jul 2014 #40
Pretty much it. Octafish Jul 2014 #54
Yep same kind of people that create dictators so decades later Rex Jul 2014 #44
Between convenient assassinations & behind the back deals, rickyhall Jul 2014 #46
How could they lose? Where I come from it's spelled PEROT. tea and oranges Jul 2014 #49
No one was more surprised than Poppy... Octafish Jul 2014 #55
I knew before I clicked on it what the pic would be. "Freedom fighters" McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #47
Like a broken record... Octafish Jul 2014 #50
Nasty bastard war criminals. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #48
'Corruption in public office is treason.' -- Adlai Stevenson, Jr. Octafish Jul 2014 #59
Treason is rampant in our gov, I believe worse than ever in our history. Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #67
You're not mistaken. And, as Reagan and Poppy Bush got away with it, all sorts of things ensued. Octafish Jul 2014 #68
Do you think Poppy still holds as much power? He looks pitiful, but wolf in sheeps clothing still Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #70
And you despise Reagan as much as Putin? Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #57
Putin didn't do business with the Ayatollah. Octafish Jul 2014 #58
Certainly you know what "as much" means Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #60
I oppose corrupt despots. Octafish Jul 2014 #61
You seem to have problems reading my transparent posts. eom. Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #62
No. Your problem is you want a different answer. Octafish Jul 2014 #63
Even more. Iggo Jul 2014 #65
Thank you. That's the phrase I was searching for. Octafish Jul 2014 #69
I believe the US government does. Look who we sell arms to. We just don't call them "terrorists." kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #66
And yet the republicans will predictably blame Obama while drumming up the war machine. Initech Jul 2014 #71
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