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Trajan

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17. What a giant load ...

Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:49 PM

Jul 2014

WHAT evidence? ...

The entire crash area is a crime scene ...

Material evidence is spread over a wide area ... just as every single aircraft accident that occurs in the modern world is investigated, piece by piece; so should this event ...

I cannot believe the level of cynical obfuscation that sullies this website lately ... completely and utterly dishonest ...

I've read your other posts over time ... This one takes the fucking cake ... ridiculous ...

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Why aren't the bodies of MH17 being picked up and preserved??? [View all] MoonRiver Jul 2014 OP

thyey are in a war zone, I don't know how easy it is to get to them. hollysmom Jul 2014 #1

Well, countries where the victims came from need to demand safe access. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #3

And their demand will be backed up .... oldhippie Jul 2014 #28

life sucks in a war zone Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #47

I've seen reference to the investigators being fired upon--so I'm guessing the combatants hlthe2b Jul 2014 #2

The Russian separatists are in control Jenoch Jul 2014 #4

They may want to loot but they are not trying to destroy evidence. former9thward Jul 2014 #9

WTF kind of statement is that? Trajan Jul 2014 #11

What exactly would be the "evidence" they would be destroying? former9thward Jul 2014 #14

What a giant load ... Trajan Jul 2014 #17

You did not answer the question. former9thward Jul 2014 #40

They could be picking up missile fragments, for one thing. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #22

They know the missile from radar and satellite. former9thward Jul 2014 #39

Fragments may identify a particular type of age of the missile system muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #45

The Ukrainians got their systems from Russia. former9thward Jul 2014 #49

Yes, but the type *or* age (as I should have typed above) may indicate muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #53

Fragments would reveal WHOSE missile. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #48

Perhaps, but what does it matter who gave it to them? former9thward Jul 2014 #50

One of the stories on RT is that the bodies were actually from the Malaysian crash pnwmom Jul 2014 #25

I doubt anybody would take that claim seriously. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #35

Those who need to believe that their cause is just and Igel Jul 2014 #41

Evidence of a missile strike, IronGate Jul 2014 #56

Ahhhh former9thward Jul 2014 #58

I know that, IronGate Jul 2014 #61

The kind of evidence that traces a SAM to recent Russian manufacturer and ownership. that kind. EX500rider Jul 2014 #62

That is not really the issue. former9thward Jul 2014 #63

It may be no issue to you whether or not the Russians handed over.. EX500rider Jul 2014 #64

If the debris on the ground does not give more Jenoch Jul 2014 #13

Most aircraft accidents are not shoot downs. former9thward Jul 2014 #15

Are you for real? Jenoch Jul 2014 #18

The Russians are not claiming that. former9thward Jul 2014 #20

There was also a claim that a top rebel commander said many of the bodies were days old. pnwmom Jul 2014 #26

Thank you. Jenoch Jul 2014 #29

I also read somewhere else that Russian television pnwmom Jul 2014 #30

Russia Today is pretty much the Pravda of the 21st Century. Jenoch Jul 2014 #34

No it is not. former9thward Jul 2014 #38

You can read anything on the internet. former9thward Jul 2014 #36

Two fails on you. Jenoch Jul 2014 #44

LOL former9thward Jul 2014 #51

How would you determine that? Jenoch Jul 2014 #55

Oh so you post stuff without a source former9thward Jul 2014 #57

You apparently did not read all of my posts. Jenoch Jul 2014 #59

The debris on the ground could include a black box, which certainly is evidence. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #24

No, its not. former9thward Jul 2014 #37

They need to prove the exact direction the missile was shot from pnwmom Jul 2014 #43

The black box does not know anything about the missile. former9thward Jul 2014 #52

We need to be able to prove it to the world's satisfaction, not just ours. pnwmom Jul 2014 #54

Because armed warlords aren't letting anyone near the site... Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #5

lol CatWoman Jul 2014 #10

Because the Russian terrorists won't let them be picked up. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #6

Because the heroic, anti-fascist freedom fighters won't allow it? n/t Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #7

I noticed the man that owns the vegetable patch was kind enough to cover the body that fell. So sad monmouth3 Jul 2014 #8

All of the above, plus it's a crime scene. Brickbat Jul 2014 #12

Some of the bodies fell through Jenoch Jul 2014 #16

Uh, war zone? Hekate Jul 2014 #19

I'm sorry but bodies are routinely picked up in war zones. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #21

I doubt the guilty party is worried about bio-hazard to civilian population. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #23

Yep, agree flamingdem Jul 2014 #32

That place was fucked up before there was a war. AngryAmish Jul 2014 #27

Rachel just said the separatists ordered volunteers to leave and that OSCE flamingdem Jul 2014 #31

Probably because the evidence will prove damning to Putin. Throd Jul 2014 #33

The initial reason was "it wasn't possible." Igel Jul 2014 #42

Because their bodies are in a war zone SoCalDem Jul 2014 #46

Russian tea party people in control randr Jul 2014 #60