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Algernon Moncrieff

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49. DI, understand, please, first that I posted this as a discussion point
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:00 PM
Jul 2014

I realize that with 300-whatever posts, people suspect me of trollery. I ask you to take my word that I've voted for Democrats starting with Walter Mondale and working forward. You might remember my previous DU name. Once, you asked me about a graphic I used to use in my sig line. It was a painting of Democratic Presidents playing poker. That might give you a hint.

As I said elsewhere in the thread: Cohen leveled criticism, but offered no alternatives, Personally, I was disappointed that Amy/Juan did not call him out in it -- or at least prod him for a concrete alternative.

The conservatives are fond of painting the President as Neville Chamberlain. My opinion - none of this is our problem. Putin wants to re-assemble the old Soviet Union circa 1938. That would be true no matter who'd been elected over the past 8 years. You'll remember a Republican President who'd claimed to have looked into Putin's eyes and seen into his soul.

Prof. Cohen says sanctions are an attitude, not a policy. I'd like to know what DUers think of that. God knows, they are not shy about offering up criticism in other areas of governance.

That comment sounds cute, but is actualy silly. randys1 Jul 2014 #1
Cohen said it twice in the interview, but wasn't quick with alternatives Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #2
I'm interested in hearing some good alternatives Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #9
Co-sign. nt Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #20
The trouble is that any approach that only looks at Russia will not work because machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #76
On this and other threads, your slip is showing. Squinch Jul 2014 #3
We're thread stalking now, are we? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #5
You have to admit .. Trajan Jul 2014 #11
I do admit that, but I wanted to quote exactly Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #19
Three months on the board...seems more like an old-timer, so familiar alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #28
I am an old timer Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #34
Sure thing, bud alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #40
+1 Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #17
Ah, well, the thing is..... Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #4
No disagreement Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #6
I like how he puts all the pieces in place Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #8
It was maddening. Everything he said sounded logical, but no reasonable conclusions were reached Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #12
Oh, c'mon. The end is very wise RobertEarl Jul 2014 #43
I do thank God that Obama is not on a hair trigger to react. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #53
Russia knows the policy RobertEarl Jul 2014 #57
The problem I see is that every policymaker over -- say 55 -- wants to couch this in cold war terms. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #59
Sure, more war leads to more war RobertEarl Jul 2014 #63
I grew up in the cold war and I sense that you did as well. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #66
Yep RobertEarl Jul 2014 #68
What makes him dumb is that he leapt to an untenable conclusion muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #80
Book Smart But Not Street Smart, Sir.... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #90
He is regurgitating the RT spin. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #71
this takes me back CatWoman Jul 2014 #7
the blame Putin for all the world's problems crowd fasttense Jul 2014 #10
You're welcome Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #13
Ah ... poor pootie poot ... Trajan Jul 2014 #15
now there you go proving me right by example fasttense Jul 2014 #23
not really CatWoman Jul 2014 #24
Plenty of us recognize Putin for what he is without longing for war. NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #54
Are you kidding? I watched "Threads", not just "The Day After". moriah Jul 2014 #62
"Threads" BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #92
Some people have a policy to blame Obama for absolutely everything. pnwmom Jul 2014 #14
To twist Lincoln's words - you can't please all the people all the time Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #16
Sometimes the far left sounds like the far right. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #18
You've got that right. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #22
Here Here! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #51
Some of the far left's love affair with Putin is disgusting. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #21
it wasn't Stalin we on the real left loved fasttense Jul 2014 #25
Keep propping up Putin. It makes you look like a Republican. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #26
Repubs are salivating over the mere thought fasttense Jul 2014 #100
well.... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #104
So, you're saying Prof. Cohen loves Putin? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #31
The article drives home the point conservatives have been making... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #33
DI, understand, please, first that I posted this as a discussion point Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #49
I think so many are quick to attack Obama and give Putin a pass... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #78
Other than to materially support Britain and the USSR, FDR did little in Europe prior to 42 Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #87
That's my point, though... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #94
I think he admires Putin, and thinks he wouldn't make a mistake muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #81
As I said elsewhere - I'd just like to know what he would have Obama do. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #89
No, it's just the smear all critics of Obama routine. Vattel Jul 2014 #85
Is there some reason why you don't like the 'left'? We are used to it of course, but I'm always sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #72
I asked you before, do I know you? You sound very familiar, but that could be because you are sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #74
Disagree onecaliberal Jul 2014 #27
Fair enough Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #30
I get that.... onecaliberal Jul 2014 #36
He ran as a progressive but got alot of campaign cash from neocons betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #29
Obama has ran the least interventionist foreign policy, beyond maybe Carter, since before FDR. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #35
American foreign policy has long been a disaster since WW2 betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #39
No president has been good. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #55
Stephen Cohen is an imbecile. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #32
Explain and expand, please. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #37
I work under the assumption that any apologist for Putin is an imbecile. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #38
I don't think there is any basis for saying he is an apologist for Putin betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #42
Anyone who doesn't hold Putin and the separatists solely responsible for MH17... conservaphobe Jul 2014 #45
That's your opinion. betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #46
That's corroborated fact. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #47
The insurgency against the elected leader of Ukraine betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #48
LOL, okey dokey. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #52
Yep...she threw cookies at them until they fled!! lol EX500rider Jul 2014 #95
Disagree. Chan790 Jul 2014 #41
Possibly because the Ukraine was part of Russia betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #44
Uh, check your history book. Chan790 Jul 2014 #60
Cohen is right. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #50
OK. You agree with Cohen. Finish his argument. What should US policy be? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #56
One doesn't have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #58
No - One does have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #64
What you're saying makes no sense. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #65
Difference in views on argumentation Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #67
Complaining about a problem without suggesting solutions is called "whining". phleshdef Jul 2014 #70
That's a more elegant way of stating what I was trying to say Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #75
Oh please. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #83
No, it is called recognizing a problem. I say the answer not just usually but almost always is TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #93
So, I e-mailed Cohen. He referred me to his article in "The Nation" Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #98
Disagree. Cohen is a Putin humper. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #69
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #77
You Seem To Imagine, Sir, Free Speech Exists Only If No One Disagrees With What Someone Says The Magistrate Jul 2014 #79
No-one attacked Democracy Now muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #82
Nothing against Amy Goodman... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #96
It really does not matter SoCalDem Jul 2014 #84
Not disagreement, but some observations Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #88
Stephen Cohen is a bigoted, hateful writer. I no longer read The Nation because of shit he Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #86
Fair Enough Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #91
What is the correct policy? Is this a EU matter? A NATO matter? A UN matter? McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #97
Peace talks would be ideal. From a US standpoint, "Stay Out of it" might be the best option. (nm) Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #99
I disagree. Obama is waiting for the right moment, for the moment when things are almost JDPriestly Jul 2014 #101
Any evaluation of the current administration policy has to start with remembering W.Bush Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #107
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #102
Well said Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #106
It frustrates me to no end ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #108
Yet another pontificating academic with no skin MineralMan Jul 2014 #103
I feel much more that way since I read his article in "The Nation" Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #105
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